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Post by rafael on Sept 3, 2008 21:52:22 GMT 10
Did I not post here the 'data' when China opened its door again to other religions?
It is a controlled form of religion where China's leaders edit dogmas about religion, where dalai lamas are hand picked by the leaders and Roman Catholic bishops are chosen bypassing Rome. [/b]
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Post by rafael on Sept 3, 2008 22:00:51 GMT 10
Again, you are always in that box of yours. Simply look around your box and within it, you're surrounded with antiquities. Those democratic countries have tried so hard to get rid of moral evils through freedom and theism; and are they gaining as compared to countries without God? Of course yes, simply look at the old USSR which enveloped its precious country with different forms of evil to the citizenries. Its vision of Utopia went down the drain full of repulsive discomfort to mankind.
Another fact is: From the ashes of a morally reprehensible country brings forth countries with democratic independence.
Which is better among the two now Rafael?
I bet you can not even stay in North Korea for at least a year bringing your own belief system with you From 1945 until dissolution in 1991—a period known as the Cold War—the Soviet Union and the United States of America were the two world superpowers that dominated the global agenda of economic policy, foreign affairs, military operations, cultural exchange, scientific advancements including the pioneering of space exploration, and sports (including the Olympic Games and various world championships).
Initially established as a union of four Soviet Socialist Republics, the USSR grew to contain 15 constituent
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the soviet was once a super power until it was destroyed.
And you neither can live in most of African countries with the same reasons.
My main argument is how man is manipulated by religion, not by unbelief but rather by too much believing.
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Post by brnd on Sept 4, 2008 1:09:26 GMT 10
Thailand a predominantly buddhist country is on martial law Fear of Pakistan, a predominantly moslem country. It's Prime Minister was almost killed. Fear of war on its boarder with India another country with so much religion.
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Post by Always on Sept 25, 2008 12:52:14 GMT 10
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Post by Always on Sept 25, 2008 13:30:54 GMT 10
Rafael: "My main argument is how man is manipulated by religion, not by unbelief but rather by too much believing."
HUH! ;D
Why is it that you are still sticking with your lies? Didn't you just previously post that in both societies that there were as much atrocities to man as a take from my own posts as in copying my own credit?
With a simple conjecture, you couldn't even fully express your deception
If unbelief in God is a religion of Atheism and belief in a Creator is a religion of Theism ...
* Unbelief = Religion of Atheism * Belief = Religion of Theism
Therefore: Both systems are Religion
If Atheistic Marxism is a failed theory whereas Theistic' Capitalism is progressive in success, then, ...
* Marxism = a failure * Capitalism = a success
Therefore: Which religion is truly the Opium to any society?
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Post by rafael on Sept 27, 2008 2:15:51 GMT 10
Let me tell you again just in case you wanted to skip reading my recent post in this topic.
If those informations said so, it can be told that people thru the coming future generations dying from the hands of theist governments would outweigh and outnumber those who perished from communism/socialism/facist governments. Society may have been lured into false hopes that theism by having freedom of religion brings liberty to man, when in contrary, corruption from its own leaders destroy it. I stated about Africa and South Asian countries which has the most religions and beliefs in supernatural powers .
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Post by rafael on Sept 27, 2008 2:26:43 GMT 10
Religion is the decoy of every society. You're particularly talking about America, it is not the only country playing with too much religiosity as i mentioned above. Marxism should have suceeded but failed perhaps because of the wrong type of species of humanity but so is Capitalism as its serves the greatest entrapment to the reality of man in terms of equality as what happened to Wall Street,were only the rich and powerful manipulated careless markets at the expense of small tax payers and the poor.
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Post by Always on Sept 27, 2008 13:59:13 GMT 10
Let me tell you again just in case you wanted to skip reading my recent post in this topic.
If those informations said so, it can be told that people thru the coming future generations dying from the hands of theist governments would outweigh and outnumber those who perished from communism/socialism/facist governments. Society may have been lured into false hopes that theism by having freedom of religion brings liberty to man, when in contrary, corruption from its own leaders destroy it. I stated about Africa and South Asian countries which has the most religions and beliefs in supernatural powers .
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I did not skip such post for the simple reason that it is a redundancy. You said it yourself that those information said so because I have the source to justify them whereas you, you do not have any source to counter them with BUT PURE ASSUMPTION without any justification.
If you keep on saying about Africa and South Asian Countries about abuses then show us proof that such can actually outnumbers the abuses of the Soviet, China, and North Korea combined?
And if you have the actual source be sure that it can really outweights such significance into the creation of MORE THAN TEN (10) INDEPENDENT NATIONS which had risen from the ashes of the OLD SOVIET. Do you think you can have that count and provide such intelligibly? And you should at least have the unison of more than 10 countries okay?
Goodluck
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Post by Always on Sept 27, 2008 14:26:22 GMT 10
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Post by Always on Sept 27, 2008 15:01:45 GMT 10
"Marxism should have suceeded but failed perhaps because of the wrong type of species of humanity ..." but so is Capitalism as its serves the greatest entrapment to
But the fact is "Marxism FAILED" and it's only solution is to bifurcate it with the help of Theistic approach.
YOU'RE RIGHT! It failed because of a wrong type of species - BUT NOT OF HUMANITY OF COURSE . But of the INSECT KINGDOM and do you know why?
I know everyone will be surprised in reading this but a society based in socialism is actually a token of (here you go) an advance eusocial society of Bumble & Honey Bees. YUP! Because all the caste workers of such society only serve the Queen (Communism) and if any of the worker produced eggs (as in a capitalistic approach of growth) not intended for the queen but for her own, the Queen either take them away and eat them or have her police workers kill them and confront the egg-laying workers. That's the truth as in Thus, Marxism only works in a society if you live like an insect. Geez, this is very familiary to the lives of the NPAs for the simple reason that they live like insects in the wilderness of the mountains.
Read more:
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/12/061204123251.htm
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Post by Always on Sept 27, 2008 15:43:36 GMT 10
but so is Capitalism as its serves the greatest entrapment to the reality of man in terms of equality as what happened to Wall Street,were only the rich and powerful manipulated careless markets at the expense of small tax payers and the poor.
If you do not know anything about Wall Street and its stocks & bonds--why bother the lies. And Besides WS is now in a positive note even without the US$700B Bailout and the DJI are up to about 121pts. You should know that it is not good to count the eggs before they hatch
Under the Federal Government, abuses in capitalistic world that believes in God and the Holy Bible are well-looked into and subjected into the watchful eyes of different Federal & State Agencies. Can you name any abuses in the United States of America that are comparable to the atrocities in a communistic world?
Taxpayers' money? As long as the existing Federal Programs and Benefits are stable for the citizens of the United States of Anerica to fully receive and use them, there's nor high risk involved in the issuance of the bailout and infact it is for the betterment of the taxpayers' funds for it will have an add-on as in an accounting term called either Earned Interest or Capital Gain. Such gain in capital either by intangble or tangible assets will provide additional funds in the Treasury and Federal Reserves which can be distributed to different Federal Programs. Rafael, do you follow?
Anyway, that said, there is no such program in a communistic society. Only the people with ranks enjoy the luxury while its citizens stay poor as they are (no change) DON'T BE BLIND because it is the truth. Whereas, in the United States of America, any ordinary person who starts as poor can live the dream of becoming rich just like the Federal Government.
Folks, if you were to choose a way of living, would you stay either in North Korea, Soviet, or China et al. as its ordinary citizen without the chance of becoming rich or would you rather stay in the U.S.A and have the chance to live the dream?
Rafael, I asked you once this before, could you stay in North Korea for at least a year?
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Post by rafael on Oct 2, 2008 0:39:58 GMT 10
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Folks, if you were to choose a way of living, would you stay either in North Korea, Soviet, or China et al. as its ordinary citizen without the chance of becoming rich or would you rather stay in the U.S.A and have the chance to live the dream?
Rafael, I asked you once this before, could you stay in North Korea for at least a year?
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You are redcuing the whole argument to only a part of the theory, this topic is about religion and its adverse effect on a supposedly utopia dream.
A rhetorical question arises then: If so many similarities exist, why cannot sub-divisions among religions – if not all religions across the board – break down the barriers that exist among them and become one? Religion has been exploited and used for material gain and many more.
More Die in India Violence against Churches www.cbn.com/CBNnews/444524.aspx
This is what is all about an opiated society due to religion.
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Post by Always on Oct 3, 2008 11:42:06 GMT 10
You are redcuing the whole argument to only a part of the theory, this topic is about religion and its adverse effect on a supposedly utopia dream.
A rhetorical question arises then: If so many similarities exist, why cannot sub-divisions among religions – if not all religions across the board – break down the barriers that exist among them and become one? Religion has been exploited and used for material gain and many more.
Once again, you have justified that you could not defend the main topic and the quote from someone that you copied and paste
This is your own topic and yet you could not even understand it thoroughly because the main theme is about religion of theism being attacked within the foundation of marxist thought and way of thinking. That is in fact the reduction of the whole argument for the simple reason that religion of atheism is excluded in the whole course of proceedings as a substance of belief system.
Utopia you say? ;D
It was the ideology of Marxism that such state can be attained but yet it failed; and history dictates that as a fact and true. Instead of achieving "utopia" in communist countries, their ordinary citizens suffer as peasants and live unchanged all their lives. In conclusion, it is an impractical scheme for social improvement in a socialist environment.
And Utopia can only be achieved by any person through the belief in the works of Christ Religion can not and will not save a person but only himself with the guidance of the Gospel of Christ and abstaining from sin.
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Post by Always on Oct 3, 2008 13:41:21 GMT 10
More Die in India Violence against Churches www.cbn.com/CBNnews/444524.aspx
This is what is all about an opiated society due to religion.
But then who protected the Christian Churches?
And which religion is truly the opium of the society if based from the author's main theme which has been copied and pasted by Rafael without foreknowledged of the fact at hand?
Let me give you another fact regarding a country's worst atrocities to humankind by Marxism/Communism beside Soviet & China--the Cambodian Marxist Pol Pot. He was another who tried to create instant atheistic communism in his country.
Sources: * Political Change in Wartime: The Khmer Krahom Revolution of South Cambodia 1970-1974[/i] With his Khmer Rouge Guerillas as an instrument, Pol Pot set his sights on stripping away, through terror and other means, by subtituting new values. The bloodletting in the Killing Fields of Cambodia was terrible because between 1975 to January 1977, OVER 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE, one-fifth of the country's population, WERE SLAUGHTERED WITHOUT MERCY [/b] Source: Paul Johnson, Modern Times, pp. 654-57. [/i] And the funny thing about this historical fact, Pol Pot believed that the way to Cambodian prosperity and attain Utopia was to wipe out the urban elite and eradicate all forms of theistic religions for they were the opium of society. Rafael, on what grounds can you question Pol Pot on what he did? hehehehe e-mail perhaps? Neway, let me repost this again: Folks, if you were to choose a way of living, would you stay either in North Korea, Soviet, or China et al. as its ordinary citizen without the chance of becoming rich or would you rather stay in the U.S.A and have the chance to live the dream? Rafael, I asked you once this before, could you stay in North Korea for at least a year? TRIVIA: What was Pol Pot's Most Favourite Slogan? [/b][/color]
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Post by Always on Oct 3, 2008 13:55:50 GMT 10
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Post by rafael on Nov 2, 2008 6:16:47 GMT 10
What a hypocritical religous society, where students throw eggs at an obama picture. These are the people who proclaimed themselves as conservatives and christians
It was part of what the group called an "anti-Obama carnival." Conservatives said the egg toss was symbolic of Obama's economic policies, but many in the crowd called it a personal attack.
Anti-Obama Carnival Sparks Heated Debate at Texas A&M www.kbtx.com/news/headlines/33535179.html
Another case is a Child with Down's syndrome is denied in a God believing country as Australia.A German doctor is denied residency in Australia due to his son's Down syndrome. Seven Network's Alicia McMillan reports.
video edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/11/01/mcmillan.aus.down.syndrome.sevennetwork
They have their own opiated society in denial.
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Post by Always on Nov 2, 2008 16:12:02 GMT 10
What a hypocritical religous society, where students throw eggs at an obama picture. These are the people who proclaimed themselves as conservatives and christians
It was part of what the group called an "anti-Obama carnival." Conservatives said the egg toss was symbolic of Obama's economic policies, but many in the crowd called it a personal attack.
Anti-Obama Carnival Sparks Heated Debate at Texas A&M www.kbtx.com/news/headlines/33535179.html
This is what normally happened when you didn't apply the things you had learned or experienced during your school years may it be from universities or regular colleges.
i.e. What would university students do when there'll be a new administrative policy of hike increase in tuition fees? They normally employ ACTIVISM in order to voice out their opinions by burning posters and effigies in public or slicing or cutting pixies of those involved. These are done to show dissatisfaction and PROTEST on certain policies.
AND what did Jay Cunningham of Texas A&M's Young Conservatives of Texas school organization had to say?
"And in an intelligent fashion we'd like to discuss his policies cause its not Barack Obama the man that we have the problem with. Its his socialist, liberal polices that we are concerned with."[/i] Conservatives (The school organization) say(s) they just wanted to get people's attention,then hand them a pamphlet about Obama's economic policies. Btw, Conservatives is not in a sense literally but in a LEXICAL sense of the group's very philosophy. I hope you are enlightened. [/b] www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/33535179.html
WHAT IF:
What if such ACTIVISM is done in China?
Related Issue:news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/4/newsid_2496000/2496277.stm
I asked you this once before and still left unanswered: WHICH RELIGION IS TRULY THE OPIUM OF THE SOCIETY?
VOW!
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Post by Always on Nov 2, 2008 16:43:30 GMT 10
As is with your previous posts, you are just too blind to understand them. VERY TYPICAL OF YOU!
"Another case is a Child with Down's syndrome is denied in a God believing country as Australia.A German doctor is denied residency in Australia due to his son's Down syndrome. Seven Network's Alicia McMillan reports.
video edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/wor....me.sevennetwork
They have their own opiated society in denial."
You are desselecting once again. THE CASE IS NOT FINISHED YETand there you are acting as if ...
Anyway, the Victorian Premier himself criticized the Immigration Department and said without discrimination: [/b] "We will be supporting his case to the Federal Government 100%. We will provide whatever support, whatever submissions, whatever argument is necessary to support Dr Moeller and his family."www.theage.com.au/national/brumby-slams-decision-to-refuse-doctor-visa-20081031-5eza.html?page=2
Next time don't conclude anything yet until it is truly confirmed and WHAT IF:
What if this thing has to happen to let say HUSSEIN Obama's relative just like his TNT aunt from Kenya who was cited for deportation many years ago?
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27481680/
But of course the denial king will do the very best not to tarnish his reputation.
VOW!
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Post by rowtide on Nov 8, 2008 1:27:39 GMT 10
Ang religion ay nagiging opium depende sa pag gamit nito.Kung mali na ang sinusunod at hindi nag iisip, at sunud lang ng sunod tulad na yan ng isang addict.
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Post by Always on Nov 18, 2008 1:51:46 GMT 10
Tama ka na kahit ang relihiyon ay nagiging masama kapag itoy walang disiplina at inaabuso pero ang katotohanan ay dapat din nating malaman kung which religion committed the most atrocious crime in human history - THE RELIGION OF ATHEISM!
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