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Post by leanne. on Aug 13, 2008 22:00:37 GMT 10
he he flatliners, alala ko si ate linsi, sawang sawa na daw siya pag tv series na gaya ng ER-,CSI kc ang flatliners gaya din ng mitosis laging yun ng yun, nga naman , nangalay daw siya ng kaka drawing ng cells sa biology, tapos zoology 101, 102, yun ng yun ng yun nyahaha
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Post by linsi on Sept 13, 2008 12:47:55 GMT 10
Mitosis ng mitosis kc, hanggang ngayon nga memoryado ko pa ang drawing ng cell hmp! naging for life kahit hindi i-memorize
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Post by linsi on Sept 13, 2008 12:50:00 GMT 10
Near-death experiences: What really happens? Scientists studying the brain, conciousness of people on the verge of dying
Many reports of near-death experiences sound the same: a welcoming white light and a replay of memories. But now scientists aim to study what really happens to the brain and consciousness when someone is on the verge of dying.
In a new study called AWARE (AWAreness during REsuscitation), doctors will examine patients in hospitals in Europe and North America who reach a state called cardiac arrest.
"Contrary to popular perception, death is not a specific moment," said leader of the study Dr. Sam Parnia of the University of Southampton in the U.K. "It is a process that begins when the heart stops beating, the lungs stop working and the brain ceases functioning — a medical condition termed cardiac arrest, which from a biological viewpoint is synonymous with clinical death."
Science has long struggled to define death, and to determine when the precise moment of death occurs. Now though, most doctors consider death more of a process than an event. A person is thought to have died when he stops breathing, his heart stops beating, and his brain activity ceases.
"During a cardiac arrest, all three criteria of death are present," Parnia said. "There then follows a period of time, which may last from a few seconds to an hour or more, in which emergency medical efforts may succeed in restarting the heart and reversing the dying process. What people experience during this period of cardiac arrest provides a unique window of understanding into what we are all likely to experience during the dying process."
Previous research suggests about 10 to 20 percent of people who live through cardiac arrest report lucid, well-structured thought processes, reasoning, memories and sometimes detailed recall of events during their encounter with death.
One study found that people who reported peaceful feelings, bright light and out-of-body experiences during a brush with death are more likely to have had difficulty separating sleep from wakefulness in their everyday lives. Both before and after their near-death experiences, these people often have symptoms of the rapid-eye movement (REM) state of sleep while awake.
The AWARE researchers want to find out what happens to the brain when a person's body has started to shut down, whether it is possible for people to see and hear during cardiac arrest, and what's going on during out of body experiences.
The launch of the AWARE study was announced at an international symposium at the United Nations Sept. 11.
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26675999
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Post by linsi on Sept 13, 2008 12:59:15 GMT 10
Criteria of death Finally in 1981, the President’s Commission, on the Uniform Determination of Death Act was enacted and endorsed by both the American Bar Association and the American Medical Association.
The commission found and stated that death was when breathing and blood flow had stopped and there was no need to use brain functions to evaluate death unless the person was on a respirator.
When the patient was on a respirator a flat EEG meant that they were dead and not just ‘considered dead.
The commission also wanted to stop the blurring of patients who were severely injured and those that were dead. They referred to coma as a state of a living person compared to that of a person with no brain activity as dead.
And finally they used the Whole-Brain concept, as in the whole brain had no activity, to describe death so that the senile and severely retarded were not considered dead.
www.angelfire.com/ms/perring/criteria.html
Stricly speaking
Strictly speaking the definition of death is the ‘cessation of life, the total and permanent cessation of all vital functions’
Or the cessation of the flow of vital bodily fluids." Even with the medical advancements man has achieved, today we still use the same criteria:
when the heartbeat and respiration stop and the cells and tissues of the body die. (DeSpelder 212).
after this
advanced signs of death that become evident
Lack of certain reflexes in the eyes, the fall of body temperature (algor mortis),
the purple-red discoloration of parts of the body as blood settles (livor mortis)
and the rigidity of muscles (rigor mortis).
A person can be kept ‘alive’ or in an irreversible coma with artificial means of sustaining heartbeat and breathing. Because of this we now have focused on ‘Brain Death’ or cerebral death.
Cerebral Death refers to cessation of activity in the cerebrum, the upper part of the brain, where it is believed most conscious mental processes originate.
Death is now also referred to as irreversible coma determined by a flat electroencephalogram (EEG). Irreversible coma is also referred to as terminal coma, where there is an absence of any normal reflexes controlled by the brain stem or spinal cord. If a comatose state exists for a month, then the patient is said to be in a Permanent Vegetative State. (PVS) (DeSpelder, 213)
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Post by linsi on Sept 13, 2008 13:02:09 GMT 10
There are two types of death according to some experts. One is clinical death which is defined as when the person’s breathing and heartbeat stops. There is also cellular death which includes the cessation of breathing and heartbeat, but also the living cells of the body degrading into nonliving molecules.
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Post by rowtide on Sept 16, 2008 9:21:22 GMT 10
Paano si Ariel Sharon? Ilang taon na na siyang nasa coma?
Coma is the prolonged period of unconsciousness immediately following traumatic brain injury. In this sleep-like state, there is no speech, the eyelids are usually closed, and there is no response to commands. The person in coma may have a simple reflex in response to touch or pain, but essentially there is no meaningful response to external stimuli. There is an absence of awareness of self and the environment, even under conditions of vigorous external stimulation.
Near death din ba ito?
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Post by migy on Oct 5, 2008 21:35:02 GMT 10
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Post by brnd on Jan 4, 2009 4:16:14 GMT 10
death is a sleep during which the "dead know nothing" (Ecclesiastes 9:5).
This view maintains that the person has no conscious form of existence until the resurrection, either at the second coming of Jesus (in the case of the righteous) or after the millennium of Revelation 20 (in the case of the wicked). Because of this view, no hell currently exists and that the wicked will be destroyed at the end of time.
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Post by supremo on Jan 8, 2009 10:09:16 GMT 10
In biblical viewpoint, death is always define as separation of two things: Physical Death ---- Eccl 12:7 -------------------- Body and Soul Spiritual Death ---- Isa 59:1-2 ------------------ Man and God Second Death ----- Rev 21:8; 22:14-15 ------ Man and God Death to Sin ------- Rom 6:2,11; Heb 7:26 --- Christian and Sin Death to Law ----- Rom 7:4 -------------------- Christian and Law Marriage dissolved by death ----- 1 Cor 7:39 ----- Man and Woman The early christian also define death as separation: www.bible.ca/H-nature-man-definition-death.htmIf this definition holds true, then death is not sleep, but a total separation of two things. I hold on to these truths!!!
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Post by brnd on Jan 9, 2009 0:14:25 GMT 10
In biblical viewpoint, death is always define as separation of two things: Physical Death ---- Eccl 12:7 -------------------- Body and Soul Spiritual Death ---- Isa 59:1-2 ------------------ Man and God Second Death ----- Rev 21:8; 22:14-15 ------ Man and God Death to Sin ------- Rom 6:2,11; Heb 7:26 --- Christian and Sin Death to Law ----- Rom 7:4 -------------------- Christian and Law Marriage dissolved by death ----- 1 Cor 7:39 ----- Man and Woman The early christian also define death as separation: www.bible.ca/H-nature-man-definition-death.htmIf this definition holds true, then death is not sleep, but a total separation of two things. I hold on to these truths!!! During this period of soul sleep the believer is not conscious of anything and the soul is completely inert until the time of the final resurrection of the dead. Ecclesiastes 9:5 and 12:7 In the Bible, "sleep" is simply another term for death, because the body appears to be asleep. Others say that when we die the soul go to heaven before the second coming of Jesus Christ. I thought that I would share some Scriptures that can lead one to believe in the aspect of "soul sleep." Scriptures pertaining to soul sleep are listed below: Job 14:10 Job 14:14 Psalm 6:5 Psalm 49:15 Daniel 12:2 John 5:28-29 John 3:13 Acts 2:29-34
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Post by Always on Jan 9, 2009 18:46:10 GMT 10
Again, your inquiries will always go back to my previous post. Judgment Day is not within us yet. But before you go further, you must be specific as to what kind of death do you intend to understand and implore. Is it Physical Death or is it Spritual Death? For you must also understand that ressurection will not happen unless the Day of Judgment arrives.
Do you still remember my argument regarding the word "Kill" in terms of its lexical meaning? Patayin mo ang ilaw or Off the light is my analogy of the Biblical ressurection. You are also wondering about afterlife experiences if there's any from people who died; and the best asnwer I could give you is in the First Book of the Corinthians. In fact Parekoy Migy posted it in great details from the scriptures.
Re: pentium7.proboards51.com/index.cgi?board=heaven&action=display&thread=943&page=3
1 Corinthians 15:50-53[/b] I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. ( NIV)
The mystery here is that when we arise because of ressurection, our decaying bodies from physical death will be changed to a newer version of the old from mortal to immortal ones for the simple reason that both old exoskeleton (skin) & skeleton (bones & blood DNA) cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO CAME BACK FROM LIFE?
Clinical studies have recorded that some people after being proclaimed dead come back to life have one thing in common to assess. A very high percentage of them(dead patients) who came back to life imposed that they'd seen a BRIGHT LIGHT. Btw, such experiences by those people are not afterlife experiences because they are not entirely dead. And the only time we will be able to experience afterlife is after we are judged by God.
* Judgment Day * Ressurection - Evolution of Mankind to Immortality * Judgment Itself * Separation of Beings
OMT, DO YOU KNOW WHO THAT BRIGHT LIGHT IS? It is none other than JESUS CHRIST - as the LAMP. Once again this is depicted in the 2nd Book of the Corinthians as entailed by Parekoy Migy in the "Heaven, I'm in Heaven" thread.
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Post by Always on Jan 9, 2009 19:48:47 GMT 10
Cge this will be the sccop for tomorrow's continuation:
Our flesh and bodies will decay but our DNAs within will be used as flatforms or newer vessels for our immortal souls & sprits. And while waiting for Judgment Day, our souls and spirits will be in a sort of stasis within Jesus Christ for safekeeping. Heto iyon bright o white light na nakikita ng mga nagsipagbalik na mga pasyente. At sa mga natuluyan namang namatay ay dito sa ilaw na ito nananatili ang kanilang mga kaluluwa't spirito habang hinihintay ang paghuhukom.
Gumaganda ba ang kwento hehehehe
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Post by rafael on Jan 13, 2009 23:51:14 GMT 10
Cge this will be the sccop for tomorrow's continuation:
Our flesh and bodies will decay but our DNAs within will be used as flatforms or newer vessels for our immortal souls & sprits. And while waiting for Judgment Day, our souls and spirits will be in a sort of stasis within Jesus Christ for safekeeping. Heto iyon bright o white light na nakikita ng mga nagsipagbalik na mga pasyente. At sa mga natuluyan namang namatay ay dito sa ilaw na ito nananatili ang kanilang mga kaluluwa't spirito habang hinihintay ang paghuhukom.
Gumaganda ba ang kwento hehehehe
If the body will decay, the DNA also will. Do you have a new form of modern day religion?
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Post by Always on Jan 14, 2009 10:04:03 GMT 10
How could you easily forget our discussion about Genesis 3:19 with regards to dust of creation If you believe that dinosaur existed 65 million years ago and left fossilized artifacts to be examined by us, mere humans, what more of a God who can easily pinpoint the essence of His creation.
Btw, I practice Ethical Theism.
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Post by rafael on Jan 15, 2009 4:36:19 GMT 10
How could you easily forget our discussion about Genesis 3:19 with regards to dust of creation If you believe that dinosaur existed 65 million years ago and left fossilized artifacts to be examined by us, mere humans, what more of a God who can easily pinpoint the essence of His creation.
Btw, I practice Ethical Theism.
And how about the destruction of earth? That is according to your bible and still you insist on a DNA of a decayed body and a destroyed earth where nothing is livable?
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Post by Always on Jan 15, 2009 18:32:09 GMT 10
And what about the death of your loved-ones? Don't you remember her every All-Souls day? Remembering the good times and the bad times even though she or he is no longer beside you. The essence of your relatives will always be there in you through recollection.
And what about when you broke-up with your girlfriend or divorced your wife? You can still smell that perfume during your first date, don't you? You can still remember that first kiss as if it is just today.
And what about the Supernovas and planets around them? Even though they have disentegrated into oblivion, scientists still can find ways into the remnants of their essence; and this is how they can measure how far they are from our solar system. If we humans can detect the leftovers of Supernovas, what more of a GOD who lives among the stars
BTW, the destruction of earth is not only according to the Holy Bible but you have to learn physics and study the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics as a food for thought.
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Post by peng on Jan 16, 2009 11:49:02 GMT 10
Di ba pag patay ka na, patay na rin ang DNA?
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Post by supremo on Jan 16, 2009 11:57:33 GMT 10
Di ba pag patay ka na, patay na rin ang DNA? Teka, bat napunta sa DNA usapan??? Oh, well tuloy usapan.... For me death is not sleep. May i know if the original poster a Jehovah's Witness???
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Post by Always on Jan 16, 2009 12:35:45 GMT 10
Di ba pag patay ka na, patay na rin ang DNA?
Di namamatay ang DNA mo kahit patay ka na kaya nga iyan minsan ang basehan ng mga imbestagador sa mga krimen o sa mga anak na namatayan ng magulang tulad na lang ni Larry Hillblom na isa sa may-ari ng DHL. Babaero siya kaya may dalawang pinay na kanyang inanakan kaya ang DNA ng namatay na Hillblom ay ikinumpara sa lahat ng mga anak mula sa mga babaeng siya daw ang ama. Swerte ng mga bata kasi napatunayan nila at nagkaroon sila ng mga manang multi millions in US Dollars.
Ang swerte nga noh?
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Post by leanne. on Jan 20, 2009 22:07:41 GMT 10
Korek, magaling talaga ang pagkakalikha sa tao !
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Post by leanne. on Jan 20, 2009 22:14:56 GMT 10
1 Corinthians 15:50-53 I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. (NIV)
The mystery here is that when we arise because of ressurection, our decaying bodies from physical death will be changed to a newer version of the old from mortal to immortal ones for the simple reason that both old exoskeleton (skin) & skeleton (bones & blood DNA) cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO CAME BACK FROM LIFE?
Clinical studies have recorded that some people after being proclaimed dead come back to life have one thing in common to assess. A very high percentage of them(dead patients) who came back to life imposed that they'd seen a BRIGHT LIGHT. Btw, such experiences by those people are not afterlife experiences because they are not entirely dead. And the only time we will be able to experience afterlife is after we are judged by God.
* Judgment Day * Ressurection - Evolution of Mankind to Immortality * Judgment Itself * Separation of Beings
OMT, DO YOU KNOW WHO THAT BRIGHT LIGHT IS? It is none other than JESUS CHRIST - as the LAMP. Once again this is depicted in the 2nd Book of the Corinthians as entailed by Parekoy Migy in the "Heaven, I'm in Heaven" thread.
Always, medyo ako din napapaisip- we will all be changed? Pero yung bodies natin di ba yun pa rin pero glorified na?
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Post by leanne. on Jan 20, 2009 22:15:41 GMT 10
Cge this will be the sccop for tomorrow's continuation:
Our flesh and bodies will decay but our DNAs within will be used as flatforms or newer vessels for our immortal souls & sprits. And while waiting for Judgment Day, our souls and spirits will be in a sort of stasis within Jesus Christ for safekeeping. Heto iyon bright o white light na nakikita ng mga nagsipagbalik na mga pasyente. At sa mga natuluyan namang namatay ay dito sa ilaw na ito nananatili ang kanilang mga kaluluwa't spirito habang hinihintay ang paghuhukom.
Gumaganda ba ang kwento hehehehe
Hmm sige, ibig mong sabihin lahat ay within Jesus Christ safekeeping? walang limbo ? ahehehe
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Post by migy on Jan 21, 2009 0:35:00 GMT 10
Galeng ng Topic - at the same time educational...
continue parekoy!
Guys... read mode ako... nice !
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Post by brnd on Jan 28, 2009 1:40:07 GMT 10
Di ba pag patay ka na, patay na rin ang DNA? Teka, bat napunta sa DNA usapan??? Oh, well tuloy usapan.... For me death is not sleep. May i know if the original poster a Jehovah's Witness??? supremo, there are many christian denominations, i am just presenting the biblical connotation of death as i presented as follows in
Job 14:10 Job 14:14 Psalm 6:5 Psalm 49:15 Daniel 12:2 John 5:28-29 John 3:13 Acts 2:29-34 2 Peter 3:4
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Post by brnd on Jan 28, 2009 1:47:39 GMT 10
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO CAME BACK FROM LIFE?
Clinical studies have recorded that some people after being proclaimed dead come back to life have one thing in common to assess. A very high percentage of them(dead patients) who came back to life imposed that they'd seen a BRIGHT LIGHT.
Such cases are usually reported after an individual has been pronounced clinically dead, or otherwise very close to death but not dead Always.
And how do you explain that suppose to be bright light which is Christ?
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Post by Always on Jan 28, 2009 14:11:27 GMT 10
"Such cases are usually reported after an individual has been pronounced clinically dead, or otherwise very close to death but not dead[/b] Always." [/i][/color]
Brnd, you should have quoted me corretly; because if you did then what you posted is just a reflection of what you're thinking now.
My post dated January 9, 2009:
"Clinical studies have recorded that some people after being proclaimed dead come back to life have one thing in common to assess. A very high percentage of them(dead patients) who came back to life imposed that they'd seen a BRIGHT LIGHT. Btw, such experiences by those people are not afterlife experiences because they are not entirely dead. And the only time we will be able to experience afterlife is after we are judged by God. "
But let me give you an argument I had some time ago. If my recollection is correct I it was about cryogenics; and how one defines the term dead. It came to the point that there are laws in the United States of America governing such experiment on peope who are clinically defined as dead. Therefore, if the laws say with justifition from the medical field as it is clinically defined, then, it should stand as a human perspective.
The question now is, how do you explain a person who came back from being clinically dead? A Lazarus sydrome?
* today.msnbc.msn.com/id/28871606/?GT1=43001 ------ [/color] "And how do you explain that suppose to be bright light which is Christ? "
Simply read Revelation 21:23 (ESV):
"And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb."
And who is the Lamb?
And by knowing that, reflect it with the 2nd Book of Corinthians 5:8 wherein the soul and spirit unite with Christ.
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Post by bert on Feb 21, 2009 19:21:16 GMT 10
Death is a transition.
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Post by Always on Dec 11, 2010 14:27:06 GMT 10
Everyone says that nobody knows what will happen when you are already dead BUT it seems na parang alam ko kung ano ang mangyayari kung patay ka na. Maaring wala sa Bibliya ang sagot kung ito ay babasahin mo lang as completely literal without thinking na hindi mo na ito kelangan "out of the box" kundi na sa Bilibliya din talaga ito nakasaulat.
Kaya sa mga kaibigan natin na P7ers, meron na akong kasagutan kung ano ang mangyayari kung ikaw ay patay na. At ang tangi kong kasagutan ay tungkol lamang sa ano nga ba ang talagang mangayayari bago ikaw ay muling bubuhayin ng Panginoon?
Hintay na lang po kayo at itutuloy ko ito mamaya.
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Post by leanne. on Jan 21, 2011 23:35:09 GMT 10
Ano rin ang nangyayari sa atin habang tayo ay namamatay? naghihingalo?
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Post by dabeyonder on Feb 6, 2011 18:43:03 GMT 10
Ano rin ang nangyayari sa atin habang tayo ay namamatay? naghihingalo?
Para sa akin na kung ikaw ay naghihingalo at mamatay na na kung sakaling matutuluyan ka na ay ... mawawala ang buhay ng iyong katawan at ang iyong pag-iisip ay magbablanko ng saglit.
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