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Post by mrExdobal on Jan 7, 2009 21:49:14 GMT 10
Naniniwala ako sa Diyos pero marami akong tanong. Kung ang mga hudyo ang piniling lahi ng Diyos, hindi ba ito ay "favoritism" na tinatawag?
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Post by rafael on Jan 8, 2009 3:20:27 GMT 10
Naniniwala ako sa Diyos pero marami akong tanong. Kung ang mga hudyo ang piniling lahi ng Diyos, hindi ba ito ay "favoritism" na tinatawag?
My answer is yes. Why should God choose a certain group of race when He promotes justice and equality?
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Post by supremo on Jan 8, 2009 9:12:29 GMT 10
Naniniwala ako sa Diyos pero marami akong tanong. Kung ang mga hudyo ang piniling lahi ng Diyos, hindi ba ito ay "favoritism" na tinatawag? If you view it in a different perspective, i won't view it as favoritism, but rather a "part of a plan to save man". In other words, God chose the Jews not because he favored them, but because he will use this race for the coming saviour, our Lord Jesus Christ for the salvation of His beloved world (John 3:16). Since God promised Abram that He will blessed him (Gen 12:1-3), all the biblical account that shows "favoritism" for the jews only shows what God had promised, He will continue it till the end!!!
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Post by Always on Jan 9, 2009 19:19:10 GMT 10
TAMA KA SUPREMO! Kasi ang mga Jews ay isa lamang sa mga plans of God concerning the prophecies of Jesus Christ's Birth.
The Prophecy with regards to the Born of the Seed of Woman is in Genesis 3:15 while the fulfillment of this prophecy is either in Galatians 4:4 or Matthew 1:20.
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Post by mrExdobal on Jan 11, 2009 1:09:07 GMT 10
Follow up question lang. Simpleng tanong, at maaaring sabihing kalokohang tanong pero gusto ko lang talagang malaman. Pinili ng Diyos ang lahi ni David na dun lalabas si Kristo, Sa panahon ni Abraham dun din nakipag kasundo ang Diyos, bakit sa lahing yun? Samantalang may mga ibang lahi naman gaya ng mga Asyano, atbp? Iisipin ko na si Kristo ay isang hudyo, kaya may "favoritism" ang Diyos. Bakit hindi naging isang Asyano o Afrikano.
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Post by supremo on Jan 11, 2009 3:39:35 GMT 10
Follow up question lang. Simpleng tanong, at maaaring sabihing kalokohang tanong pero gusto ko lang talagang malaman. Pinili ng Diyos ang lahi ni David na dun lalabas si Kristo, Sa panahon ni Abraham dun din nakipag kasundo ang Diyos, bakit sa lahing yun? Samantalang may mga ibang lahi naman gaya ng mga Asyano, atbp? Iisipin ko na si Kristo ay isang hudyo, kaya may "favoritism" ang Diyos. Bakit hindi naging isang Asyano o Afrikano. Di ko alam kung yung time noon ay may Asyano o Africano na. But definitely He won't choose Asian kasi dami corrupt . Kidding aside, ill try to answer your question within the best of my knowledge. Before answering your question, lets look back at the time noong wala pa ang lahing Judio. Abraham is one of the best-known people of the Bible. He's a key figure in the history of both the Jewish and Arab people. He was the great-grandfather of Judah, whose descendants became known as the Jews, and he was also the father of Ishmael, from whom many of the Arab people are descended. Abraham was a Hebrew, and although the ancestor of both, Abraham himself was neither Jew nor Arab. From the Scriptural genealogical record comes some of the most well-known terms relating to Israelite people: Semite and Semitic originate from Noah's son Shem, and Hebrew is derived from Eber, the ancestor of Abraham. "The Sons Of Noah: Shem, Ham and Japheth...The sons of Shem: Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud and Aram. The sons of Aram: Uz, Hul, Gether and Meshech. Arphaxad was the father of Shelah, and Shelah the father of Eber. Two sons were born to Eber: One was named Peleg, because in his time the earth was divided; his brother was named Joktan. Joktan was the father of Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah, Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah, Obal, Abimael, Sheba, Ophir, Havilah and Jobab. All these were sons of Joktan. Shem, Arphaxad, Shelah, Eber, Peleg, Reu, Serug, Nahor, Terah and Abram (that is, Abraham). The sons of Abraham: Isaac and Ishmael." (1 Chronicles 1:4,17-28)From two other people come two other very well-known identities: Israelites are the descendants of Isaac's son Jacob, who God renamed Israel, and from Jacob's son Judah come the terms Jew and Jewish. So how do all of these designations relate to the people involved? * The term Shemite is derived from Noah's son Shem. * The term Hebrew is derived from Shem's descendant Eber. Eber was a Shemite, and the first Hebrew, but not an Israelite or a Jew because neither existed yet. * Abraham was Eber's descendant. Abraham was a Shemite and a Hebrew, but not an Israelite or a Jew because neither existed yet. * Isaac was Abraham's son. Isaac was a Shemite and a Hebrew, but not an Israelite or a Jew because neither existed yet. * Jacob, who God renamed Israel, was Isaac's son. Jacob was a Shemite and a Hebrew, but not a Jew because Jews originated with his son Judah. The first Israelites were the children of Jacob. * Judah was one of Jacob's twelve sons. Judah was a Shemite, a Hebrew, and an Israelite. The first Jews were the children of Judah. The descendants of the other eleven of Jacob's sons were not Jews, but were themselves named accordingly e.g. from Levi came the Levites, from Benjamin came the Benjamites and so on. A vitally important fact in understanding Bible Prophecy is that while all Jews are Israelites, not all Israelites are Jews. All are Hebrews, but only the descendants of Judah are Jews. Many prophecies apply specifically to the Jewish people of today, while other prophecies apply specifically to the descendants of the other so-called "lost" tribes of Israel Now back to your question. why God chose Abraham? Answer: Gen 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast OBEYED my voice.This is the same reason why He chose Abel (Gen 4:4), Enoch (Gen 5:22,24), Noah (Gen 6:8) etc..etc... Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Heb 11:2 For by it the elders obtained a good report. Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. Heb 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. Heb 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Heb 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. Heb 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: Deu 7:7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people: Deu 7:8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
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Post by Always on Jan 11, 2009 17:14:09 GMT 10
Baket hindi Asyano? O to be more specific ay baket hindi mga Instik, Pilipino, Koryano, o Hapon man lang?
Madali lang ang sagot jan Ginoong MrExdobal dahil if ang Bibliya at larangan ng Archaeology ang ating pagbabasehan ay ang mga lahing Asyano ay huli na o late lang siya umusbong o naging ganun. Ito ay nangyari pagkatapos o naganap on the day of the "Great Dispersion." Nagkawatak-watak ang mga tao kasi nga according to the Scripture, "The whole earth had one language and one speech" (Gen. 11:1)
More than four years ago, I had an enlightening debate in RF Yehey against a very smart philosophy professor named Hyungi (Karl Marx) who used to be Homer but nowadays, he's using the handle Decoy in Yehey's new message board. The last time I encountered him, we were arguing about the Tower of Babel in the land of Ur. That was a great day for a professor showing his great intelligence against poor me; but he lacked something. I'm not talking about my source in Archaelogy in general but by only One Particular. He didn't have God in his side. How did I know? He didn't believe in one. So do you cite that as a favoritism?
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Post by rafael on Jan 12, 2009 3:23:49 GMT 10
In all of what is said, how could anyone here consider Adam's nationality? He is claimed as the first man to a creationist.
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Post by Always on Jan 12, 2009 12:13:09 GMT 10
Oh yeah? How was his nationality considered? Please tell us the details
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Post by leanne. on Jan 13, 2009 10:02:29 GMT 10
Teka ano nga bang nationality ni Adam, kse kung hudyo sya lalo nang pagbibintangang may paborito nga ang Diyos, pero mukhang hindi siya itim o africano dahil nakikita natin sa mga pictures ng kwento ng paradise si Adam at Eve ay mga puti at hindi rin sila singkit pero ano nga ba
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Post by Always on Jan 13, 2009 15:15:48 GMT 10
Adam & Eve were not Jews to begin with but they were Earthlings created by God as the original "Progenitors" of the human race. They were our great, great, great, great to the nth power ForeParents. Nationality was asked but before I give you an answer to that, let me cite you the basic meaning of the term and why is it so because it simply means:
1] National Character
OF WHAT?
a) of people having a common origin, tradition or language and capable of forming or actually constituting a nation-state;
b) of an ethic group constituting one element of a larger group.
Supremo's post on Jan. 10 of this year entailed a full description in bifurcation of ethnicity. Out from the sons of Noah arose the Semitic people having the chracteristics of a Semite(shemite) arose the root originated from the name of Shem, the youngest son. Out of Shemite, it bifurcated to different etnicities and languages based on the character in the places of their allegiance, such as, Phoenicians, Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic, Amharic, Akkaidans, Ethiopic et al. Thus when you look for the meaning of the word, it states as of, or relating to, or constituting to a sub-family of Afro-Asiatic ethnicity & language family.
What it means?
It means lahat ng mga salita at lahi natin ay nagmula sa mga anak ni Shem at ng kanyang mga kapatid na anak naman sila ni Noah. Kaya kahit napunta man sa Intsik o sa Hapon ang pagpapanganak kay Hesus ay iisa pa din ang dugong naninirahan sa kanila - it came from the blood of the original progenitor.
Pero baket sa Jews ipinanganak si Jesus Christ?
The simple answer to that is because the coming of Christ is of the critical exposition within a prophecy which involves a precursor of a cleansed bloodline in time and space. Yun ang panahon na itinakda sa kanya na para isilang ni Mary na nagmula sa dugo ni Haring David.
But why not on the side of the Arabs tutal pareho naman sila ng pinagmulan pala?
If I am going to answer this, it will bifurcate to a different thread na mas malalim at mabigat intindihin. But I have a very good example from a current event sa Pilipinas particularly about the "Alabang Boys." Isa sa mga boys ay may last name na Brodett at ang ama of this boy at ang uncle niya ay iisa din ang ama dahil magkapatid nga. Baket sila nag-aaway pero magkapatid sila at iisa lang ang pinagmulan nilang ama? Dahil magkasalungat ang sinasabi ng isa't isa kaya siempre iisa lang ang nagsasabi ng totoo. Sa palagay mo sino ang papanigan ng Ama o ang lolo ng batang Brodett? Siempre papanigan niya ang nagsasabi ng totoo at may mas-malinis na pagkatao.
Favoritism ba ang tawag dun? There you go, and my answer to you MrExdobal, hindi favoritism kundi kung ano lang ang nauukol sa panahon ng pagpasya o preference of choice basing from a situational consideration of time and space.
Ayan ha tatlo ang nasagot ko sa inyo
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Post by rafael on Jan 13, 2009 23:47:38 GMT 10
Oh yeah? How was his nationality considered? Please tell us the details Whether Adam was really the first man on earth is a matter of belief. Scientists say that our first hominid ancestors evolved around 7 million years ago, and that our own species, Homo sapiens (or 'modern humans') evolved nearly 200,000 years ago. On the scientific evidence, Adam was not the first person on earth.
If Adam's nationality seems to be vague with you here, how can anyone of you defend the creation of man by a creator? And if Adam was the first created man then his identity regarding his race implies a chosen race.
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Post by Always on Jan 14, 2009 10:42:08 GMT 10
Let me dissect your post:
"Whether Adam was really the first man on earth is a matter of belief. Scientists say that our first hominid ancestors evolved around 7 million years ago, and that our own species, Homo sapiens (or 'modern humans') evolved nearly 200,000 years ago. On the scientific evidence, Adam was not the first person on earth."
It seems that your ignorance of the two(2) creation details in the Holy Bible is showing. And I also know that you're trying to promote the falsity of Lucy being the first hominid.
Well, click & learn:
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"If Adam's nationality seems to be vague with you here, how can anyone of you defend the creation of man by a creator? And if Adam was the first created man then his identity regarding his race implies a chosen race."
The very reason why I defined the term Nationality firsthand is for you to understand. It seemed that it leaked out instead of being grasped so easily as a food for thought. Inihaw, as in a subjunctive mood, if you were a god Rafael and you were to plant a seed of life in your own image of first male & female in the planet Mars, what would you call them being the first progenitors in Mars? Or as observers (just like the angels), what should we call them?
[ ] Children ? [ [ Humans ? [ ] Earthlings ? [ ] Martians ? [ ] Aresians [ ] JEWS ? [ ] Asians ?
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Post by rafael on Jan 21, 2009 4:37:54 GMT 10
Oh yeah? How was his nationality considered? Please tell us the details Since i was the one in quest and you claim to know your bible you must have the burden to answer my queries. with regards to Adam's nationality in question, is his being first manin Jewish, Christian and Islamic belief.
Adam was the first man, usually believed to have been created around 6,000 years ago. The name Adam means 'man' in Hebrew, so some biblical scholars question whether all the biblical stories about Adam were originally considered to be all about the same man.
Whether Adam was really the first man on earth is a matter of belief. Scientists say that our first hominid ancestors evolved around 7 million years ago, and that our own species, Homo sapiens (or 'modern humans') evolved nearly 200,000 years ago. On the scientific evidence, Adam was not the first person on earth.
Neither his nationality leaves everyone in confusion.
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Post by rafael on Jan 21, 2009 4:47:48 GMT 10
, lets look back at the time noong wala pa ang lahing Judio. Abraham himself was neither Jew nor Arab. Abraham's original home was Ur, a city East of Babylon. He was Babylonian and therefore considered within the civilization of Egyptian, Greek, Roman and Arab Nations which in turn goes back to a chosen civilization . If the queries of the author of this thread speaks about a chosen race as favored then Asians, Others, or Negroids are out.
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Post by rafael on Jan 21, 2009 4:53:37 GMT 10
If you view it in a different perspective, i won't view it as favoritism, but rather a "part of a plan to save man". In other words, God chose the Jews not because he favored them, but because he will use this race for the coming saviour, our Lord Jesus Christ for the salvation of His beloved world (John 3:16). Since God promised Abram that He will blessed him (Gen 12:1-3), all the biblical account that shows "favoritism" for the jews only shows what God had promised, He will continue it till the end!!!
Your answers are deeply subjective. Salvation is subjective. When god chose this nation he chose the old testament setting in that region.
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Post by Always on Jan 21, 2009 17:43:16 GMT 10
"The name Adam means 'man' in Hebrew, so some biblical scholars question whether all the biblical stories about Adam were originally considered to be all about the same man."
YOU'RE WRONG AGAIN!
How can you be able to understand Christians by being ignorant of our source of faith especially when it comes to etymology? The Torah explains the name that the hebrew word for earth is Adama; which is as is or in part of the the 1st creation story, and in the 2nd creation story in which earth is already a part of, God formed man from the dust(ground) of the earth. Thus the connection of adama, earth is the basis for Adam's name. The word Adam is comprised of the letter aleph, followed by dalet, and mem the letters that spell the word dam which means blood.
Since Adama means Earth while Adam is basically a man, and it is pronounced as Ad' am in Hebrew, for that reason, he is a man of the Earth. In other word, he is an Earthling.
Source: www.meaning-of-names.com/israeli-names/adam.asp
Conspicuously, the name Rafael(Raphael) means "God has healed" in Hebrew.
And I believe your mother still has that faith in you.
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Post by Always on Jan 22, 2009 14:01:11 GMT 10
Supremo stated: "... lets look back at the time noong wala pa ang lahing Judio. Abraham himself was neither Jew nor Arab." Rafael refuted: "Abraham's original home was Ur, a city East of Babylon. He was Babylonian and therefore considered within the civilization of Egyptian, Greek, Roman and Arab Nations which in turn goes back to a chosen civilization . If the queries of the author of this thread speaks about a chosen race as favored then Asians, Others, or Negroids are out."
But I say: Supremo is quite correct to say that Abraham was indeed neither a Jew nor an Arab; and you almost got it right in saying that Abraham was Babylonian since Ur has been a part of Babylon. The thing is, Supremo is correct and you're not Rafael.
Why?
Yes, Abraham was born in the land of Ur; BUT, not as a Babylonian. He was born as a CHALDEAN when the nation of Chaldea ruled Babylon(ia) during the Babylonian captivity. This is also the reason why in history that during the life of Abraham, the land or city was called the Ur of the Chaldees, to which the name is also mentioned in the Holy Scripture of the Bible.
Research as to why Babylonians were not called Mesopotamians nor Iraquis are not called Babylonians? I hope you get my point Rafael before posting any other fallacious claims.
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Post by mrExdobal on Jan 22, 2009 22:01:04 GMT 10
Maganda ang usapan, mukhang palalim ng palalim ang tanong ko at mukhang mahabang history pala ito.
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Post by mrExdobal on Jan 22, 2009 22:02:58 GMT 10
Yes, Abraham was born in the land of Ur; BUT, not as a Babylonian. He was born as a CHALDEAN when the nation of Chaldea ruled Babylon(ia) during the Babylonian captivity. This is also the reason why in history that during the life of Abraham, the land or city was called the Ur of the Chaldees, to which the name is also mentioned in the Holy Scripture of the Bible.
Research as to why Babylonians were not called Mesopotamians nor Iraquis are not called Babylonians? I hope you get my point Rafael before posting any other fallacious claims. [/b][/quote] Si Abraham ay Chaldean?
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Post by mrExdobal on Jan 22, 2009 22:19:08 GMT 10
Whether Adam was really the first man on earth is a matter of belief. Scientists say that our first hominid ancestors evolved around 7 million years ago, and that our own species, Homo sapiens (or 'modern humans') evolved nearly 200,000 years ago. On the scientific evidence, Adam was not the first person on earth.
Neither his nationality leaves everyone in confusion.
Yan pa ang isang malaking katanungan at mabuti na rin na naaaral ito.
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Post by Always on Jan 22, 2009 23:18:45 GMT 10
Iyan nga ang isa sa problema ng mga ebolusyunista at ang huli nga nilang natuklasan at inilabas na ancestor natin na upright daw maglakad noon ay ang tinawag na "LUCY" but katulad ng mga nauna ay isa ding peke at walang kasiguraduhan. Nai-clip ko pa nga ang bidyo nito para iyo din mapanood eh.
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Post by Always on Jan 23, 2009 0:29:04 GMT 10
"Si Abraham ay Chaldean?" OO at tulad nga ng sinulat ko ay pinanganak si Abraham o Abram sa panahon ng Chaldean Empire noon sakop nito ang Babylonia. Thus, he was a Chaldean citizen or a (mistranslated) Chaldees.
This is also the case of people being born in Guam, an organized, unincorporated territory of the United States, they gained American citizenship automatically (at birth.)
BUT what about Filipinos during the Philippine Commonwealth?
Dapat cguro oo pero hindi eh; kasi ang status ng commonwealth noon ay para preparasyon lamang ng bansa para maging fully-independent. Pero ang mga Pilipino noong period na ito ay tinatawag na "Resident-Alien" ng bansang Estados Unidos kaya para silang mga Green-Card Holders.
Nakuha moba ang pagkakaiba?
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Post by peng on Jan 25, 2009 20:55:55 GMT 10
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Post by Always on Jan 26, 2009 11:52:15 GMT 10
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Post by jiro on Jan 26, 2009 17:08:02 GMT 10
"Earthlings kasi tayo ay mga anak ng naghugis sa ating; tulad na lang kapag may mga anak ang mga uncle mo ay pwede na ding tawaging "younglings" hehehe pero hindi sa kapatid mo babae kasi baka maging sisig - as in sizzling. JOkE " Hahaha! and kulet ni Always! hahaha! napatawa mo ko dun! hahaha! sizzling!!! wehehehe! thanks always for making my day bright! wahahaha!
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Post by rafael on Jan 28, 2009 4:34:58 GMT 10
Jesus' genealogy dates back from Abraham to David. It is a chosen race.
When it comes to Adam, as the first created man, it is more of confusion. Cain’s fear of being lynched, his marriage to an unknown woman and the fact that he founded a city (Genesis 4:14-17) are all interpreted as evidence that another race of men coexisted with Adam and his family.
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Post by Always on Jan 28, 2009 18:17:35 GMT 10
"Jesus' genealogy dates back from Abraham to David. It is a chosen race.
When it comes to Adam, as the first created man, it is more of confusion. Cain’s fear of being lynched, his marriage to an unknown woman and the fact that he founded a city (Genesis 4:14-17) are all interpreted as evidence that another race of men coexisted with Adam and his family."
Rafael, it seemed that you missed my point when I posted that Genesis has two(2) creation stories. I tried to get way with it even though the subject is very familiar to me with an ace in my sleeve -The so-called Pre-Adamaic side of the story. I know that Supremo likes this subject too.
I believe I already mentioned the term progressive creation here in P7. And before I go further into this subject I wanted to know from you, ...
First, [li] [ ] Angels?
[/li][li] [ ] Animals? [/li][li] [ ] Adam?[/li][/ul] 2nd, [li] [ ] Adam? [/li][li] [ ] Angels*?[/li][/ul] 3rd, [li] [ ] Adam? [/li][li] [ ] Angels*?[/li][/ul] 4th, [li] [ ] All over the universe excluding Earth? [/li][li] [ ] Universe including Earth? [/li][li] [ ] Earth alone?[/li][/ul] [/b]Note: * after Angels connotes Fallen Ones
Let me pause for a shortwhile so that you could think a little bit. Now, ... in traditional Jewish sources especially in the Kaballah, it explains different forms and aspect in Angelology and Demonology. One must understand that Angels have the power to shapeshift into animals, monsters, beast, men or simply into their own true forms.
What about science?
Science is not in any way a contradiction to supernaturalism, or even concern itself with such. Since science deals with the laws of nature, it is in fact science through the passing of time is the dedicated tool to which supernatural events in the Holy Bible have been slowly proven one at a time. Rabbi Kaplan paraphrasing Rabbi Wasserman once wrote, "... Any disbelief in miracles is thus not scientific, but is based on arbitrary prejudices in confrmiyto popular styles of thought. Such a disbelief can reduce a person's concept of G-D to a mere abstract philosophical idea. ..."
What about dinosaus fossils & suppose~d hominid bones?
Before I start on that, here are 5th & 6th questions in the list that whatever your answers will be are conclusive way of realizing the Pre-Adamaic period.
5th, [li] [ ] Englisht?
[/li][li] [ ] Egyptian? [/li][li] [ ] Akkadian? [/li][li] [ ] Sumerian? [/li][li] [ ] Sanskrit? [/li][li] [ ] Hebrew? [/li][li] [ ] none of the above?[/li][/ul] 6th, [li] [ ] Yes? [/li][li] [ ] No?[/li][/ul] If yes, then please show us proof that there are connections of the chosen language to those hominid bones which were thought to be in hundreds of million years ago. If you can't, then why dwell on something that is not of human bones? I should rather ask: Why dwell on something you know that is being faked? But if your answer to #6 is NO, then, it is safe to say that Adam and Eve were the first humans preceded by animals, beasts, shapeshifters, reptiles, et al. [/b][/color]
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Post by ruth on Jan 31, 2009 13:05:05 GMT 10
Rafael, nakakita ka na ba ng any form of life today na nag- reresemble man lang kahit konti sa katalinuhan at pagiging sociable ng mga human beings?
If you truly believe that we evolved from apes....nakakakita ka na ba ng isang human being na nag-evolve into something else--like a Mutant Ninja Turtle or XMen kaya?
If you do--then your belief of the evolution--is it also science fiction like Xmen and Mutant Ninja Turtle?
ala lang po--di ako makasagot ng medyo Biblical ngayn..mayang gabi siguro...aral muna at kakahiya naman kay supremo at always.
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Post by ruth on Jan 31, 2009 13:19:40 GMT 10
mr Exdobal--at a spiritual level naman po..I would say that Jews are not God's favorite, they are God's chosen people to fulfill His plan of salvation...to fulfill His promise to that nation...
nangako Sya kay Abraham--and He fulfills every promise He makes..
He also promised to you and me that never again will the world be destroyed by a flood,..and He will fulfill that promise to you and me,,, whether or not you obey him.
" God knew you even before you were born"--
Speaking of favoritism--will you consider Jews as favorites at the time when they were being persecuted by the Germans? hindi di ba? will you consider them as favorites when they were being thrown out of their lands...when each nation surrounding them is making war with them..
will you consider them a favorite, if you know that when God punishes the Jews, it is a heavier punishment than every one else's??
they are God chosen people--but they are not immune to punishment...they are not immune to suffering..
as much as my daughter is a favorite (kasi nagiisa lang sya hehehe)--- she is not immune to discpilne.
The Jews are God chosen people to fulfill His plan and God is giving them lessons kabi-kabilaan for them to learn that they are part of the plan and that the only way for them to finally see their Messiah is to acknowledge that their Messiah already came to them in the flesh 2000 years ago.. and that their Messiah is coming back again..
once they acknowledge that...that is the time when they will be used as God's chosen people to evangelize the world...
right now there are only 4 tribes in Israel who believe that Jesus is their Messiah and they are called Messianic Jews...
in Revelations--the prophesy says that the 12 tribes of Israel (12,000 Jews out of each 12 tribes = 144,000 Jews) will preach Jesus is the Messiah in all 4 corners of the earth....and at that time only will the world acknowledge their 1 true God..
the challenge now is..there are only 4 tribes left in Israel who are Messianic...the other 8 tribes nasaan sila??? they are scattered across the globe--
so paano sila babalik sa Israel to form that 12 Messianic tribes? I do not know..
here is another news: all of the Wall Street world players who fell are Jews (Lehman Brothers, Morgan Chase, Meril Lynch)--if they are God's chosen people or God's favorite-- bakit sila bumagsak??
hindi kaya dahil sini-shake ni God ang mga senses nila--for them to wake up? that they have a role to play in God's kingdom and the whole world is waiting for them to acknowledge that Jesus is their Messiah....once that happens.. God's plan is close to fulfillment...
so yes, they are God's chosen people or you can say God's favorite,,, but the heaviest of responsibilities are in their shoulders.. every non- Christian nation is against them (except for Bush's government--Obama would be another matter)...while the Christian nations depend on them for the fulfillment of God's promise--they are chosen--and we depend on them..
and again mrexdobal, when you feel that God does not favor, it is just a feeling, the truth remains the truth, regardless of your feeling...
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