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Post by linsi on May 29, 2006 3:19:31 GMT 10
Please tell us your opinions about suicide. Is it a sin? Bakit naging kasalanan ito. Ang suicide ay isang uri ng desisyon ng isip.
Pag sinabing "suicidal ka" ang ibig sabihin indirectly hinahangad mong mamatay na o di kaya indirectly welcome mo ang tragedy ending an ideal situation you are in.
anong ibig sabihin ng "death is sweeter" ibig bang sabihin mas maganda pa ang magpakamatay o patay na nga?
Kapag nagpakamatay ba ang isang tao, alam niya ang moral culpability o ang responsibilidad? At kung alam niya ang moral culpability bago nagpakamatay, inayos na niya lahat bago isagawa ang pagpapakamatay hindi ba ibig sabihin nito ay binale wala niya ang boses ng Diyos (konsenya)at nakahanda na siya sa impiyerno?
Sana sumagot ang ating mga ka PP7 Philosophy Penthium7
hotty, ruth, migy,theservant, sir empire, kuya banshik, always, supremo, jackgubat at sa lahat.
Para sa meh, sensible topic ito and we go for it.
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Post by ruth on May 29, 2006 15:25:30 GMT 10
ang unang pumasok sa isip ko
Thou shall not murder...that means it is a sin...kasi SUICIDE is murder!
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Post by linsi on May 29, 2006 15:28:56 GMT 10
hi ruth
hala forums tayo habang may time nyaha, ok may tanong po ako if murdering is a sin, may pagkakaiba ba pag sinabing shou shalt not kill sa thou shalt not murder?
at bakit maraming naniniwala sa Diyos pero nag su-suicide sila, di ba at ito ay bypassing ng conscience? ahehe napunta ulet sa conscience hindi naman maiiwasan ngayon di ba?
what drives a person believing in God to end his life.. knowing that he/she will be damned?
gusto ko po ng inputs..
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Post by supremo on May 30, 2006 1:20:42 GMT 10
Interesting post! Let's try to answer it based on the bible. I think there are seven suicides na naka tala sa bible at doon natin pagbasehan kung suicide is a sin or not, or maybe suicide based on the bible. Abimelech (Judges 9:52-54) Abimelech lacked personal identity. Samson (Judges 16:25-30) Samson died for a cause he believed in and for revenge. Saul (1 Samuel 31:4) Stressed out, unable to live up to certain expectations; felt rejected and a failure Saul's armor-bearer (1 Samuel 31:5) Impulse, he wanted to die with his boss. 40% of teenage suicide is impulse. Ahithophel (2 Samuel 17:23) Ahithophel was bitter because his advice was not followed Zimri (1 Kings 16:15-20) Rebellion; Zimri had a problem with authority Judas (Matthew 27:3-5) Depressed, Judas felt trapped by materialism and guilt Hope you can share something here Note: Above verses is taken from this link christiananswers.net/q-dml/dml-y038.html
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Post by bangzhik101 on May 30, 2006 13:19:37 GMT 10
Hi Supremo,
There is a distinction between "suicide" and "martyrdom". Choosing to dies in order for others to live is not a selfish act of pride (suicide) but a charitable act of offering one's life so others may live (martyrdom).
In my opinion, Samson should not be in the list.
Hi Linsi and Ruth,
The distinction between murder and killing is based on circumstance and motive.
Murder is pre-meditated while killing may not be pre-meditated. There is also the issue of killing (takings anothers life) in the circumstance of protecting yourself from an unjust aggressor (in the case of war, etc.).
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Post by ruth on May 31, 2006 20:31:54 GMT 10
ayun nga kuya B....suicide is pre-meditated...pero pareho pa rin yun..pumatay ka pa rin ng tao. which is ang sarili mo.
I guess what these Bible verses tell us, is that depression is inherent to man even in ancient times...
pero minsan may naalala ako...nung time na sobrang convicted ako of my sin ang asked forgiveness from God...mga 2 hours yata ako walang patid nagdasal...pagkatapos nun i feel so weak yet calm...peaceful...
sabi ko kay linsi...sana kunin na ako ni Lord ngayon para di na uli ako magkasala...
I remember one Biblical characted na parang gusto na rin nya mamatay at that time para makasama na daw nya si Lord
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Post by supremo on Jun 1, 2006 3:55:46 GMT 10
Hi Supremo, There is a distinction between "suicide" and "martyrdom". Choosing to dies in order for others to live is not a selfish act of pride (suicide) but a charitable act of offering one's life so others may live (martyrdom). In my opinion, Samson should not be in the list. My reply, you have a point bangzhik, yet generally speaking, it's still suicide kaya nilagay yun as suicide also Suicide - The act or an instance of intentionally killing oneself dictionary.reference.com/search?q=suicideHe prayed to God that he let him die together with the palestines...that's intentional...
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Post by linsi on Jun 16, 2006 22:31:02 GMT 10
to be exact supremo did you mean Samson's death was one form of suicide? hmmm
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Post by rowtide on Sept 7, 2006 15:59:41 GMT 10
to be exact supremo did you mean Samson's death was one form of suicide? hmmm This is very interesting.The teachings about suicide is vague. More ideas, anyone?
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Post by violet on Oct 9, 2006 22:04:11 GMT 10
difficult topic asan ka na supremo
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Post by delta on Oct 12, 2006 12:57:53 GMT 10
Gaya ng topic na ito, wala bang mas makakasagot? Pinalaki tayong mga Pilipino na "ang suicide agad sa impyerno ang punta"
Ganun ba? Baka naman pwedeng ipaliwanag ng husto ito, mukha yatang tao lang ang may sabi nito at hindi Diyos.
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Post by linsi on Oct 17, 2006 23:53:08 GMT 10
hmmm nobody dares ba?
ma quote nga si sir supremo at kuya banshik
Hi Supremo,
There is a distinction between "suicide" and "martyrdom". Choosing to dies in order for others to live is not a selfish act of pride (suicide) but a charitable act of offering one's life so others may live (martyrdom).
In my opinion, Samson should not be in the list.
My reply,
you have a point bangzhik, yet generally speaking, it's still suicide kaya nilagay yun as suicide also
Suicide - The act or an instance of intentionally killing oneself dictionary.reference.com/search?q=suicide
He prayed to God that he let him die together with the palestines...that's intentional...
ok intentional ang desire ni samson according to supremo, to die with the palestines but the difference is he never took his life with his own act..He requested God to end up his life, He needed God to decide..
Yet si apostle paul nun nag desire din na mamatay na..
In Philippians 1:23-24 he wrote of the two possible outcomes: "For I am hard pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better. Nevertheless to remain in the flesh is more needful for you."
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Post by linsi on Oct 17, 2006 23:54:13 GMT 10
Sir supremo
ok intentional ang desire ni samson according to supremo, to die with the palestines but the difference is he never took his life with his own act..He requested God to end up his life, He needed God to decide..
Yet si apostle paul nun nag desire din na mamatay na..
In Philippians 1:23-24 he wrote of the two possible outcomes: "For I am hard pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better. Nevertheless to remain in the flesh is more needful for you."
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