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Post by linsi on Jun 16, 2006 22:47:55 GMT 10
Maraming ayaw neto, mga ipokrito daw ang mga nag uusap tungkol sa bible at tungkol sa Diyos at sa halip ang titingnan nila ay ang nag p preach then they begin to criticize..
any idea mga ka P7
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Post by linsi on Jun 16, 2006 22:51:50 GMT 10
Di ba ruth pareho tayo sa research that God never expected from man and man could never keep up His Laws? so lahat ay IPOKRITO ganun ba?
when we base our measurements with that of God's knowledge that man could never keep up his laws, did God accused men of being hypocrites?
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Post by violet on Jun 18, 2006 14:20:10 GMT 10
yung iba at marami na mag a=accuse na ipokrita ka dahil pa bible bible pero di daw naman sumusunod, so ibig bang sabihin wag nang pag usapan, samantalang kahit naman hindi ito pag usapan ang tao e ipokrito na in their own styles hmp ;D
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jun 18, 2006 14:26:50 GMT 10
Ipokrito because they don't know what GOD gaves us...Pero to those who loves GOD, di ipokrito yun.... Kahit sa company yung iba when we're talking about GOD, parang diring diri sa pagbigkas ng JESUS word..Well... Di naman kawalan sa Diyos ang tao e... Mas kawalan ng tao ANG DIYOS....
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Post by violet on Jun 18, 2006 14:31:07 GMT 10
Ipokrito because they don't know what GOD gaves us...Pero to those who loves GOD, di ipokrito yun.... Kahit sa company yung iba when we're talking about GOD, parang diring diri sa pagbigkas ng JESUS word..Well... Di naman kawalan sa Diyos ang tao e... Mas kawalan ng tao ANG DIYOS....
yeah, kung tutuusin ipokrito nga kung sa ipokrito, alam naman ng Diyos na hindi talaga makakasunod pero alam din ng Diyos na ang tao e nangangailangan sa Kanya, tama ka sis. at kung hindi naman pag usapan ang bible at hindi mag aral at hindi mag sikap aralin ang tungkol sa Diyos anong gagawin naten, wag na lang at umek ek na lang ;D
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jun 18, 2006 20:28:40 GMT 10
No one's perfect sa human beings... Kung sasabihin nating di nagkakasala ang tao, the preachers, etc...Ginagawa nating sinungaling ang Diyos because GOD alone is the one PERFECT...
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Post by ruth on Jun 19, 2006 14:00:49 GMT 10
Linsi, violet & Hotty,
even God knows that His peope (Christians) will fall in their own ways...even His friend Moses SINNED...si David adulterer pa at murderer...Leaders fail! Humans fail! without Him everyone will Fail!
compared to Christ..nobody can say he/she has/have a clean slate.
i guess to deny that they are discontent...that they are happy living a life in their own way...is HYPOCRISY..
to deny the call to live the LIFE that God promised...to ignore His blessings is HYPOCRISY..
kapag ipinagdamot mo ang PAGKAIN na ibinigay sa iyo ng Dyos at nagdulot sayo ng SAYA ...that is HYPOCRISY///
to claim that that initial HIGH when you received Christ and believed He is Your Savior will last for lifetime...is HYPOCRISY...
we are HUMANS...we are still on earth...hindi pa nakakarating sa paroroonan...therefore we will still fail...what is important is that we know we are destined for GREATNESS...that we are being REFINED...being SHAPED...from where we are...from our worst selves...
kung saan tayo galing...being our SINFUL Nature...that is our nature..SINFUL..we will be refined..pupukpukin...as preparation...but until the 2nd coming...we will not be able to attain our PERFECT STATE...
yan ang hindi mainitindihan ng marami...which I hope and only pray na sana pagdating ng araw may magsabi din sa kanila na hypocrite sila...
for example SEX is part of man's nature......but being a Christian means also denying our self centered nature..deny the flesh...deny our selves...kaya nasasabihan tayong hypocrite...
to deny that we all have inherent desire for SEX is HYPOCRISY...may desire tayo...but we deny our flesh! hindi po HYPOCRISY and pag deny sa flesh...but giving up that which draws us far from Him...
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Post by ruth on Jun 19, 2006 14:04:18 GMT 10
once, I considered stopping to talk about God..the Bible etc...kasi I want this people to see the cool, carefree side of me...to be IN...to FIT IN!
but I cannot deny other people's needs for God's word...kahit ayaw nilang makinig or magbasa...I am not here to entertain...I am not here to please...
As a child, my parents disciplining has been my cause of dissatisfaction. But now I have found the wisdom behind their words.
I guess the initial dissatisfaction will make them unhappy. But I cant deny them the happiness that they will attain in the long run.
this is more important than projecting an image of ME being cool and carefree. di bale ng masabihang BORING, HYPOCRITE etc...
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Post by ruth on Jun 19, 2006 14:14:10 GMT 10
aside from that, concerned din ako about what would become of me...if tend to be LAX...and tend to be compromising...and my tendency to dominate...my tendency to be confused also...
sa Revelations the fall of the 7 churches was also prophesied...that means..God knows that we will all fail!....kahit pa ang mga priests..pastors etc...
when God talked to John thru a vision...He addresses the leaders of the churches as the "angel of the church"...
He even appreciated the well meaning intent of the leaders and the church goers...and then He warned them about the error of their ways...how they are going to fall...
but He also appreciated the will of those who believed in Him despite the pressure of trying to conform to their circumstances...
He knows everything...lahat yan nakaplano. And I want to understand. I have a lot of questions myself. There are things that I cant understand...and unless I talk to someone who are in the same wavelength di ko maiintindihan.
Minsan...my own programming...family background..personality...will give me a different perception of what is being said in the Bible...
by discussing it with another person (MY OWN View)...and reading the other person's view...mas lumalawak ang perspective ko...di na parang kabayo na may takip ang mga mata...na one way lang ang vision.
kaya nga ginawang mahirap intindihin ang Bible eh...para pagusapan...
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Post by linsi on Jun 19, 2006 14:17:08 GMT 10
ello ruth
may isang registered member kc na ayaw na kaya 4 lang yata post niya kc daw ang penthium7 masyadong straight tapos daw hindi daw naman nasusunod ang bible bible hehehe
what can i do, hehehe type type lang naman yan
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Post by ruth on Jun 19, 2006 14:20:42 GMT 10
dont worry linsi...babalik din yan
been there...
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Post by ruth on Jun 19, 2006 14:26:47 GMT 10
that person will have to be in the end of himself..kailangan talaga He will totally deny his need to talk about spiritual things...to lead his life in his own way...we cannot make him join us...we cannot influence him...the Holy Spirit can...but we cant..
tama lang naman gawa nya...he should not please MAN...but please God...malay ba natin di ba? maybe he is pleasing God in his own way... ayaw nya lang ishare...because that is between him and God na lang...
i have my own limitations linsi...altho i wud want to share my testimonies to all...I am not entirely in control of how they will take it..
at least we've tried linsi...
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Post by ruth on Jun 19, 2006 16:17:54 GMT 10
for this reason, id like to thank Linsi, migy, kuya banshik, midnight, rophe...lahat ng mga taong nagdidiscuss dati sa RF...pati na rin si always, si DF, si homer
LAHAT lahata sila...people I liked and disliked personality-wise. they all helped me to realize what God has been doing in my life all this time.
and again, i dont expect people to understand or sympthasize. In fact, I expect them to abhor me and criticize me...because not doing so is HYPOCRISY.
And if they found out the TRUTH...I do not expect them to THANK ME...but THANK GOD instead...for His mercy.
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Post by linsi on Jun 19, 2006 16:35:37 GMT 10
i have my own limitations linsi...altho i wud want to share my testimonies to all...I am not entirely in control of how they will take it.. at least we've tried linsi...
write it here ruth, write it in another blog, let the earth know it,
talagang ka ipokritohan nga kung hindi makasunod sa aral at turo ng bibliya, pero eversince and tao hindi nakasunod, at ang tao talaga ay ipokrito, lahat tayo ay ganito because we are faulted and full of flaws..
pero hindi ibig sabihin hindi na aralin ang tungkol sa Diyos kaya nga under the dispensation of grace tayo because we are only justified through our faith and not through the laws.. kc nga hindi makakasunod.. i hope i can post later, also i hope habang may time ka just post, i know you will be very bisi lalo jext month kaya let us take the chances now.. site natin ito isang pamilya kaya cge lang...
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jun 19, 2006 17:12:51 GMT 10
Linsi, violet & Hotty, even God knows that His peope (Christians) will fall in their own ways...even His friend Moses SINNED...si David adulterer pa at murderer...Leaders fail! Humans fail! without Him everyone will Fail! compared to Christ..nobody can say he/she has/have a clean slate. i guess to deny that they are discontent...that they are happy living a life in their own way...is HYPOCRISY.. to deny the call to live the LIFE that God promised...to ignore His blessings is HYPOCRISY.. kapag ipinagdamot mo ang PAGKAIN na ibinigay sa iyo ng Dyos at nagdulot sayo ng SAYA ...that is HYPOCRISY/// to claim that that initial HIGH when you received Christ and believed He is Your Savior will last for lifetime...is HYPOCRISY... we are HUMANS...we are still on earth...hindi pa nakakarating sa paroroonan...therefore we will still fail...what is important is that we know we are destined for GREATNESS...that we are being REFINED...being SHAPED...from where we are...from our worst selves... kung saan tayo galing...being our SINFUL Nature...that is our nature..SINFUL..we will be refined..pupukpukin...as preparation...but until the 2nd coming...we will not be able to attain our PERFECT STATE... yan ang hindi mainitindihan ng marami...which I hope and only pray na sana pagdating ng araw may magsabi din sa kanila na hypocrite sila... for example SEX is part of man's nature......but being a Christian means also denying our self centered nature..deny the flesh...deny our selves...kaya nasasabihan tayong hypocrite... to deny that we all have inherent desire for SEX is HYPOCRISY...may desire tayo...but we deny our flesh! hindi po HYPOCRISY and pag deny sa flesh...but giving up that which draws us far from Him... Kaya nga ako mag-aasawa kasi nandun ang desire ko...wahehehe.. . Commercial lang kasi masyado tayong seryoso na naman baka masabihan na IPOKRITO FOR BEING REALISTIC...
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Post by ruth on Jun 19, 2006 17:14:06 GMT 10
hi hotty,
thanks sistah...sumasakit na ulo kanina sa sobrang seriousness lolz...hehhe
tama lang yan sis...wag magsasarili! hehehhe
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Post by ruth on Jun 19, 2006 17:15:01 GMT 10
naku si hotty nga pala...special mention...isa rin ito sa mga naging inspirasyon ko...kung alam lang nila hehhe
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jun 19, 2006 17:18:51 GMT 10
Basta ako ruth and lins, i should be thankful sa lahat ng nangyari sa buhay ko... May kulang man at wala, blessed man o hindi, sikapin ko na lang na may mai-contribute ako sa ibang tao... Siguro yun din ang mission ko dito sa mundo...Ang mag-spread ng GOD's words... Ang magparamdam ng pagmamahal ng taos puso sa kapwa tao...
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jun 19, 2006 17:20:28 GMT 10
hi hotty, thanks sistah...sumasakit na ulo kanina sa sobrang seriousness lolz...hehhe tama lang yan sis...wag magsasarili! hehehhe ahahaha!!!!!
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Post by ruth on Jun 19, 2006 17:26:48 GMT 10
Basta ako ruth and lins, i should be thankful sa lahat ng nangyari sa buhay ko... May kulang man at wala, blessed man o hindi, sikapin ko na lang na may mai-contribute ako sa ibang tao... Siguro yun din ang mission ko dito sa mundo...Ang mag-spread ng GOD's words... Ang magparamdam ng pagmamahal ng taos puso sa kapwa tao... for that reason hotty consider God has given you one of the FRUITS of the HOLY SPIRIT... in our SINFUL state...He continues to bless us with GRACE as well as FRUITS of our works.. In this Life, He allows evil to happen...but also grace abounds so that we will enjoy being with Him in the SPIRIT...we do not have to be in the New Heave and New Earth to partake in that promise.. also there are FRUITS for us to eat...and FRUITS that are forbidden hehehe....so be careful sis! and again...even if our longings are not fulfilled...it does not mean we cannot gain victory over these desires of the flesh. we can gain victory SIS....!
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jun 19, 2006 17:28:12 GMT 10
naku si hotty nga pala...special mention...isa rin ito sa mga naging inspirasyon ko...kung alam lang nila hehhe Sus ikaw naman... I've learned so much from you too... Di mo lang alam... Yan nga sinabi ko kay Linsi na sabi ko dapat ang mga taong nagkamali sa kin ay niyayakap ko pa nga..At hindi kinaiinisan.. So better yet na nandito ka na rin sa P7, kasama ka na sa pamilya... waaaaaaaaa, naiiyak ako... di drama ito dahil sa totoo lang, natutuwa ako kay ruth at kahit na may napgdaanan kaming dalawa, at least si LORD ang nagbigay ng bond sa aming dalawa kahit na ba...
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Post by ruth on Jun 19, 2006 17:31:35 GMT 10
huuusssh! kikilabutan na naman makakabasa hehehhe!
yan sinasabi ko nun...na nobody is perfect...si God lang...magkakaiba tayo ng background and personality...but we can still be friends in Christ..
o cge GROUP HUG na...kilabutan na ang gustong kilabutan! ahahha!
malay mo later on ka BEAR HUG pa natin sya lolz...
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Post by migy on Jun 27, 2006 11:22:23 GMT 10
I think masasabi kasi nila dahil we are all in the process eh, and liable to sin... since wala namang perfect person...
Yan ang i think isa sa cause.... Yung tingnan ng iba ang mali ng iba, na hindi nila nakikita na nanghuhusga na pala sila...
as it was says in the Word of God, Judge not and You'll not be Judge, Condemn not and you'll not be condemned, Forgive and you'll be forgiven...
Gandang araw Hotty, Ruth and all the Peepz there...
A Blessed Day sa inyong lahat...
migz
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jun 28, 2006 1:21:53 GMT 10
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Post by ruth on Jun 28, 2006 1:37:26 GMT 10
migy,linsi,hotty,
we cannot blame people if they think na ako ay hypocrite. kilala nyo naman ako. nung nasa RF i have been brutally honest of my views about religion...ganun din si linsi..she was uncompromising pagdating sa belief nya..even to the point of risking our friendship.
hanggat talaga walang bonding ang tao, mahirap maintindihan. there is no common thread that binds us for that person to understand my position.
hindi nya nakita yung worst state ko.
ang nakakatawa lang parang mas gusto yata nila makita ang worst state ko. imbes na maging happy sa mga naging changes sa buhay ko.
isa pa, i have been there too...mas brutal pa nga ako sa kanila when I criticize Christians.. naging witness kayo dyan...
if i stay that way...i will not be true to myself anymore..
i cant deny how God has been merciful and how He worked on me to change me...
if I deny those changes...aba sinayang ko lang sacrifices sa akin ni linsi at ng isa pang tao na naging instrumental sa pagtatag ng faith ko...
sayang naman ang mercy ng Dyos...if I stay wasted...
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jul 1, 2006 2:05:41 GMT 10
sagot ko sa last line....... korek sis...well, sana one day naman ay maka-share naman ang iba... CLAP CLAP KAY RUTH... Yung sharings nya ay napaka-inspiring... [blue]i cant deny how God has been merciful and how He worked on me to change me...[/blue]
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jul 1, 2006 16:54:36 GMT 10
Maraming ayaw ng tungkol sa bibliya... Ipokrito daw at nagkakasala naman... So ano bang pwede ring i-share ng isang christian para sa mga non-belivers na nagsasabing ipokrito? we christians know what is right and wrong as per moral law..We do not tolerate evil kung gumagawa ng evil... Pero dapat ba kapag masama ang isang tao o hindi nananampalataya kay Kristo, sya ba ay dapat kamuhian? dapat bang pabayaan na lang? ano bang desires ng Christians sa kapwa?
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jul 1, 2006 17:06:37 GMT 10
to save the souls of the non-believers yan ang dapat nating goal... So kung ipokrito tayo sa bible sabi nila.... Mas masahol tayong ipokrito kung di natin kayang tiyagaan ang mga hindi sumasampalataya... Jesus never even hated the sinners so hopefully tayo rin hindi natin kamuhian sila...
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jul 1, 2006 18:46:55 GMT 10
Blessed are we na tumatanggap kay Jesus bilang Panginoon... And blessed are we na nakakaalam ng Katotohanan... Let us share and convince other people na walang alam dito kahit pa sabihan tayo ng ipokrito....
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