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Post by mrExdobal on Jul 11, 2008 14:30:04 GMT 10
Kung totoo ang bibliya nasaan po nakasulat ang Dinosaurs? Kung totoo ang mga hula ni Daniel alin alin ang nagkatotoo? Alin alin ang mga tugma ng Bibliya at Sensya?
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Post by Always on Jul 12, 2008 11:08:00 GMT 10
Ok lang ba sau kung sasagutin ko muna ang pinakamahirap ang tungkol sa mga Dinosaur o mga dambuhalang hayop?
Ang katagang Dinosaur ay hindi mo makikita sa Bibliya dahil, una, ang lumang testamento (OT) ng Bible ay naisulat pa ng lagpas sa isang libong taon (BC) bago sa kapanakan ni Jesus Christ at ang bagong tipan (NT) ng Bibliya ay nabuo between 50 o 100 na taon (AD) pagkatapos ng kapanganakan ni Hesus ;D samantala ang salitang dinosaur ay lumantad noon 1841 AD. yup, hindi pa napapanganak ang salitang dinosaur noong naisalin na ang Bibliya.
Pero, may dinosaur nga ba noon sa Bibliya? Oo meron dahil, pangalawa, may tatlong kataga o salita sa Bibliya na kung ating hahalungkatin sa Hebrew lexicon ay ang mga sumusunod: tanniyn (pronounced as tanneen), (áäîåú) b@hemowth (the closest thing in Roman characters), and (ìÄåÀéÈúÈï, ) Livyathan.
1] Tanniyn = serpent, dragon, sea serpent, sea monster, sea dragon 2] Behemoth = beast or large animal that can grow immensely with a tail as big as a cedar tree. 3] Leviathan = great creature, dragon, monster, sea dragon, sea monster, reptile, sea reptile, land reptile.
The date to which these above mentioned (3) words were first written in the Bible was before 1400 BC whereas the very first term of the word "dinosaur" itself was first written after 3,240 years
(Land Dinosaur) Btw, ang punong cedar ay lumalaki sa taas pagitan 30 hanggang 60 na metro and its diameter can reach more than 10 feet kaya saan tau makakakita ng isang napakalaking hayop ngaun na ang buntot ay kasinglaki ng ganun uri ng puno at kahit elepante ay hindi ganyan kalaki dbah? Ref: Job 40:15-24
(Dinosaurs that fly) In Nehemiah 2:13 "AndI went out by night by the gate of the valley, even before the dragon well, and to the dung port, and viewed the walls of Jerusalem, which were broken down, and the gates thereof were consumed with fire."
(Dinosaurs that swim) Also in Psalm 74:13 "You divided the sea by Your strength; You broke the heads of the sea monsters in the waters."
Did you know that in 1822 AD, Mary Ann Mantell was the very first person to discover and correctly identify a strange bone as part of a large, unknown reptile? At ang ang asawa niyang doktor ang nagpangalan nito at tinawag na iguanodon At mula noon kung sino man ang makadiskubre ng mga ganitong buto ay sila mismo ang may karapatan magpangalan nito. Kaya since hindi nila alam noon ang klase ng mga hayop na ganito ay noon 1841 AD nila ito binigyan ng klase o uri at tinawag na mga dinosaurs.
Kaya for the P7 readers ang salitang dinosaurs ay wala sa Bibliya pero ang mga hayop na kauri nito ay nasaad noon noon pa
Sori po pala sa hebrew letters at hindi kayang maisulat dine
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Post by Always on Jul 12, 2008 11:35:55 GMT 10
Ang iba sa mga Hula ni Daniel at nagkatotoo na at mababasa mo ang mga ito sa mga Christian Paraphernalias at websites. I think Lindsay can better discuss this with you
At tungkol naman sa pangatlo kung alin alin ang tugma sa Bibliya at Sensya ay madami na at ang ilan sa mga ito ay ang Sodom at Gomorrah, Walls of Jericho, ang creation ng universe from a big-bang theory at ang progressive creation nito atbp.
Maganda kung mag-specify ka ng bagay na para sa iyo ay hindi tugma at maari nating pag-usapan
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Post by linsi on Jul 12, 2008 13:43:05 GMT 10
First of all my apology sa mga readers, guests, at P7ers kc talagang sa dami ng activities hindi na meh makapag review ng infos at facts kaya i try to read muna instead of posting (pansin bah? )
ok, i'll try posting about the book of Daniel and let me add to this
i am still mesmerized as was before pagdating sa co-warrior ng ninja girl- hindi ito nabago lalo na sa mga nababasa ko ngayon, the more i am convinced na i was right when i stood side by side with this young guy.
With a side to side bible based, scientific informations harmoniously presented here...the word is "mes-me-rayzd"
way to go my co-warrior!
balik sa topic-- will post a little later-
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Post by rowtide on Jul 13, 2008 14:52:31 GMT 10
Mukhang naghihirapan mga tanong
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Post by linsi on Jul 13, 2008 15:35:02 GMT 10
hehe... pahirap ng pahirap talaga ang mga tanong
i will start off with Daniel's prophecy about knowledge muna kc di pa meh tapos mag basa--wheew!
KJV Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Ecclesiastes 1:14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and behold, all is vanity and a chasing after wind.
Many will travel, here to there, of varied reasons, transactions will inrease as knowledge increases ito na yung sinasabi ni Always, na computer age-, also ito rin yung sinasabi sa Ecclesiastes ni King solomon na "it's like chasing the wind" where everything comes so fast- haimbawa neto ay ang everchanging updates ng mga computer models and mobile phones, dito po sa barangay namin every six months luma na ang binili ninyong electronic models-
ganyan din ang nangyayari sa Japan where scientific innovations begins.
Increase in travel with increase in knowledge will include modern travel vehicles, from horses-to chariots, to motor driven cars,ships, submarines, to airplanes, jets and space missions-
i will try my best to research on these-- meanwhile ito muna
wah nagka assignment tuloy me
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Post by Always on Jul 13, 2008 22:12:04 GMT 10
Ninja Girl, thanks for the compliment Neway, alam ba ninyo na there's a living dinosaur amongst us with a length of 23 feet? And the biggest of which so far was @ 33 feet when it was found in Borneo in 1920
I'll tell you guys more about this next time
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Post by linsi on Jul 15, 2008 10:26:42 GMT 10
Kung totoo ang mga hula ni Daniel alin alin ang nagkatotoo?
i took the time to read the book of daniel last night wheew! Actually the book records more on events from nebuchadnezzar's first invasion of jerusalem (605 B.C) to the third year of Cyrus (536 B.C) thus the historical setting for the book of Babylon during the 70 year Babylonian captivity prophesied by jeremiah (jer 25:11)
the purpose of his book is : 1.para sa mga old testament covenant (israel) that their captivity is not a permanent fate 2. ang 'sovereignty' ng Lord sa lahat ng bansa and the final triumph of God's Kingdom on earth.
If we consider these two main purposes it is more on israel's captivity and the Kingdom of God which is more on the spiritual level.
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Post by linsi on Jul 15, 2008 10:53:06 GMT 10
I would like to add more to what i previously posted about daniel's prophecy which relates more to many of us in layman's point of vision and would elaborate some more as i said.
KJV Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Ecclesiastes 1:14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and behold, all is vanity and a chasing after wind.
Yun pong Ecclesiastes 1:14 which was a book written by king solomon ay tutugma dun sa Daniel 12:4. which says:
Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
many shall run to and fro- aside from travelling many of us gets too busy with many things, if we could consider lives in the 18th century, women have all the time to do the laundry in the nearby lakes or rivers and still have more time for other jobs to do.
ngayon po may washing machines na tayo and still hindi kasya ang oras! we are here and there and yet undone with many many things. this is the implication of "run"- a verb in action. and in our philippine setting gone are the maids because of the high demand of others abroad. Things get too fast it's like chasing the wind and yet we want for more.
As what i said, yun pong mga models ng computers at mobile phones sa mauunlad na bansa ay simbilis ng hangin, here today gone tomorrow. when we bought a sony handycam with zero lax after six months outdated na daw- and we keep on trying our best to catch up with the trend and new innovations, to cope with the fast changing times.
napipilitan na rin ang mga matatanda na mag adopt sa mobile phones dahil sa complexities at bilis ng sistema.
mentioning the recently concluded primaries and caucuses sa america, obama won over hillary clinton because of internet use, launched through the facebook domain.
gone are the days of old fashioned political campaign digital na po- an increase in knowledge and coping up with the trend which will improve more.
we now send e-mails for faster and convenient communications kesa sa punta ng post office para maghulog ng sulat na may stamp which will take a week before we could receive the messages from the sender, or rather chat with webcam at conference pa from all parts of the globe para agad kuha ang message or the most is texting.
we still send bank to bank or money orders para sa padalang pera but western union is faster, minutes lang at nanjan na ang pera with no hazzles-
from here we can think of many things due to increase in knowledge as we chase the wind.
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Post by linsi on Jul 15, 2008 11:01:49 GMT 10
we are reaching the maximum level of high technological advancement, ngayon po nano technology na tayo which the japanese introduced to the world-
we have eyeglasses with small tv sets, blackberry, iphones kahit po sa field ng medicine we have all the monitors for ultra sounds, lacer surgeries, and yet diseases are crippling many thus we are turning round and round, running to and fro and chasing the wind.-
sa napaiksing bible verses, explanations ay napaka haba at napaka dami , let us just imagine the whole bible book it would take a lifetime to study .
to read it is easy but it is speaking to us through our lifetime.
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Post by mrExdobal on Jul 21, 2008 22:02:51 GMT 10
Ok lang ba sau kung sasagutin ko muna ang pinakamahirap ang tungkol sa mga Dinosaur o mga dambuhalang hayop?
Ang katagang Dinosaur ay hindi mo makikita sa Bibliya dahil, una, ang lumang testamento (OT) ng Bible ay naisulat pa ng lagpas sa isang libong taon (BC) bago sa kapanakan ni Jesus Christ at ang bagong tipan (NT) ng Bibliya ay nabuo between 50 o 100 na taon (AD) pagkatapos ng kapanganakan ni Hesus ;D samantala ang salitang dinosaur ay lumantad noon 1841 AD. yup, hindi pa napapanganak ang salitang dinosaur noong naisalin na ang Bibliya.
Pero, may dinosaur nga ba noon sa Bibliya? Oo meron dahil, pangalawa, may tatlong kataga o salita sa Bibliya na kung ating hahalungkatin sa Hebrew lexicon ay ang mga sumusunod: tanniyn (pronounced as tanneen), (áäîåú) b@hemowth (the closest thing in Roman characters), and (ìÄåÀéÈúÈï, ) Livyathan.
1] Tanniyn = serpent, dragon, sea serpent, sea monster, sea dragon 2] Behemoth = beast or large animal that can grow immensely with a tail as big as a cedar tree. 3] Leviathan = great creature, dragon, monster, sea dragon, sea monster, reptile, sea reptile, land reptile.
The date to which these above mentioned (3) words were first written in the Bible was before 1400 BC whereas the very first term of the word "dinosaur" itself was first written after 3,240 years
(Land Dinosaur) Btw, ang punong cedar ay lumalaki sa taas pagitan 30 hanggang 60 na metro and its diameter can reach more than 10 feet kaya saan tau makakakita ng isang napakalaking hayop ngaun na ang buntot ay kasinglaki ng ganun uri ng puno at kahit elepante ay hindi ganyan kalaki dbah? Ref: Job 40:15-24
(Dinosaurs that fly) In Nehemiah 2:13 "AndI went out by night by the gate of the valley, even before the dragon well, and to the dung port, and viewed the walls of Jerusalem, which were broken down, and the gates thereof were consumed with fire."
(Dinosaurs that swim) Also in Psalm 74:13 "You divided the sea by Your strength; You broke the heads of the sea monsters in the waters."
Did you know that in 1822 AD, Mary Ann Mantell was the very first person to discover and correctly identify a strange bone as part of a large, unknown reptile? At ang ang asawa niyang doktor ang nagpangalan nito at tinawag na iguanodon At mula noon kung sino man ang makadiskubre ng mga ganitong buto ay sila mismo ang may karapatan magpangalan nito. Kaya since hindi nila alam noon ang klase ng mga hayop na ganito ay noon 1841 AD nila ito binigyan ng klase o uri at tinawag na mga dinosaurs.
Kaya for the P7 readers ang salitang dinosaurs ay wala sa Bibliya pero ang mga hayop na kauri nito ay nasaad noon noon pa
Sori po pala sa hebrew letters at hindi kayang maisulat dine
Parang nagkatalo lang pala sa salitang "Dinosaur"
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Post by mrExdobal on Jul 21, 2008 22:05:02 GMT 10
Ibig sabihin ang Dinosaur na ito ay hindi nakasali sa extinction kung ganoon may lahi ito na kakaiba sa mga naunang dambuhala at lumilipad na mga Dinosaur?
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Post by Always on Jul 22, 2008 11:02:46 GMT 10
Totoo na sa salita lang nagkatalo tulad din iyan ng salitang banyaga na "Gravity" na kahit hindi natin nakikita ay hindi pa ako sigurado kung may katumbas na ito sa salitang Pilipino
At tungkol naman sa mga dinosaur na hanggang ngayon ay nasa ating kapaligiran ay hinihinala ng sciensya na may mga 200 milyon taon na sa kanilang uri ng linya. Itutuloy ko na lang po ito mamaya pagkatapos ng presentation ko sa opisina.
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Post by migy on Jul 22, 2008 19:43:43 GMT 10
Linds & Parekoy sensya na ha... read mo ako dito ha... another thing... hintayin ko continuation mo dito....
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Post by delta on Jul 23, 2008 21:46:04 GMT 10
Ako naka pila sa continuation dahil ang alam ko lang yata mga butiki sa kisame. Parang yung long foot kasing korte ng butiki.
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Post by delta on Jul 23, 2008 22:11:36 GMT 10
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Post by Always on Jul 23, 2008 22:33:18 GMT 10
Mahaba-haba kasi ang continuation eh so para ma-excite kayo ay alam nyo ba na noon 1823 ang pinakamahabang nahuling ganito sa Pilipinas sa lupalop ng Batangas ay 27 feet ;D Alam din ba ninyo na 40 tao daw ang nagbuhat sa dambuhalang hayop na ito?
At ang nakakabigla pa nito ay noong buksan daw nila ang katawan nito para ihaw-topsiya ay may nakita silang kabayo sa loob ;D
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Post by Always on Jul 24, 2008 10:14:48 GMT 10
At ang isa pang kalahi nito ay nakitang nag-swallow ng buong hippopotamus ;D
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Post by linsi on Jul 24, 2008 22:48:58 GMT 10
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Post by Always on Jul 25, 2008 21:26:34 GMT 10
Sige na guess naman kayo o
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Post by leanne. on Jul 25, 2008 22:06:40 GMT 10
Always, weekend na at palagay ko Monday na makakapost yung iba, try ko bukas ha, 2log muna meh, bagsak na talaga
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Post by mrExdobal on Jul 29, 2008 17:58:02 GMT 10
Did people and dinosaurs live at the same time? No! After the dinosaurs died out, nearly 65 million years passed before people appeared on Earth.
Bakas na lang pala ng dinosaur ang nakita ng tao. ;D
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Post by mrExdobal on Jul 29, 2008 18:03:08 GMT 10
Nakakapag taka lang kung anong purpose at bakit nalikha ang mga higanteng hayop .
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Post by migy on Jul 30, 2008 9:57:08 GMT 10
isang topic na naman yan mr. ex...
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parekoy san na continuation...
======== Guess ko nga pala Balyena ba siya? wala akong mapiga eh....
waiting mode......
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Post by Always on Jul 31, 2008 23:28:05 GMT 10
Cge na guess pa kayo before the continuation hehehe
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Post by leanne. on Aug 2, 2008 0:06:28 GMT 10
Ano ano ba ang huhulaan, di ko nga alam ang mga pangalan ng mga dinosaurs
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Post by Always on Aug 2, 2008 11:06:43 GMT 10
Cge by next week sasabihin ko na ang sagot Pero until then guess naman kayo o kaya bye for now kasi me parti me 2nyt
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Post by violet on Aug 7, 2008 4:21:40 GMT 10
ha? ano to? Dinosaur descendant to become a father at 111 ‘With these guys, foreplay might take years,’ curator says
WELLINGTON, New Zealand - An indigenous New Zealand reptile regarded as one of the last living descendants of the dinosaurs will become a father for the first time in decades at the age of 111, officials said Wednesday.
Henry the Tuatara and his mate Mildred, aged between 70 and 80, produced 12 eggs in mid-July after mating earlier this year at the Southland Museum on New Zealand's South Island, Tuatara curator Lindsay Hazley said.
Tuatara are the lizard-like last descendants of a species of reptile that walked the earth with the dinosaurs 225 million years ago, zoologists say.
‘Foreplay might take years’ Henry has lived at the Southland Museum's special enclosure for Tuatara since 1970 and had shown no interest in sex until he recently had a cancerous growth removed from his genitals. He is now enjoying the company of three females and might breed again next March, Hazley said.
"With these guys, foreplay might take years. One has to be patient," he said.
Hazley said while Henry had never before mated in captivity, it is unknown whether he had ever done so in the wild. The male Tuatara reaches sexual maturity at age 20.
The population of Tuatara in New Zealand is estimated at about 50,000.
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26051351/
ende po makatulog dahil nagtulog, may bagyo at walang pasok
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Post by Always on Aug 7, 2008 10:46:51 GMT 10
Violet, ang galing mo ha!
May isa pa at dalawang klase sila dahil magkamukha sila at sa mga panga lang nagkaiba
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Post by leanne. on Aug 13, 2008 22:19:34 GMT 10
oist violet, saan mo pinag kukukuha yan, bakit ako walang makuha
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