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Post by hottyfecehh on Jul 8, 2006 3:35:27 GMT 10
Jesus said: "Know ye not that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you? . . . glorify God therefore in your body."hanapin ko pa sa bible verse nito... Nakalimutan ko na e... Bakit nasabi ni Jesus na nananahan ang espiritu ng Diyos sa katawan ng tao? Nung sinabi nya ito, referring lang ba sa present time NYA na nananahan ang espiritu ng Diyos sa tao ? o referring sa lahat ng tao including nung panahon ng sa Old testament?
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Post by supremo on Jul 8, 2006 10:25:52 GMT 10
Yes, that's 1 Cor 6:19 "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?"
This is written by apostle paul to the church of corinth, na noong panahon na yun, ay may immorality na nangyayari. He is refering to this one:
Acts 1:18 "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."
Acts 2:4 "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."
This is the promise of our Lord, a Comforter will come to those who will accept Jesus Christ. During OT time, the Holy Spirit enters men to whom it will...kung saan nya gusto but starting NT and during pentecost, the Holy Spirit is given freely to those who will have faith and accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour.
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Post by peng on Jul 8, 2006 14:04:58 GMT 10
Pwede po bang malaman kung anong pagkakaiba ng Spirit sa Soul?
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Post by supremo on Jul 9, 2006 1:39:05 GMT 10
Pwede po bang malaman kung anong pagkakaiba ng Spirit sa Soul? Just read all the post in this thread.....you will have an idea of what's the difference between the two.
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jul 21, 2006 11:25:08 GMT 10
Yes, that's 1 Cor 6:19 "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?" This is written by apostle paul to the church of corinth, na noong panahon na yun, ay may immorality na nangyayari. He is refering to this one: Acts 1:18 "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth." Acts 2:4 "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance." This is the promise of our Lord, a Comforter will come to those who will accept Jesus Christ. During OT time, the Holy Spirit enters men to whom it will...kung saan nya gusto but starting NT and during pentecost, the Holy Spirit is given freely to those who will have faith and accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour. hmmmnn... SO HOLY SPIRIT our COMFORTER... comforter means... [brown]the designation of the Holy Ghost (John 14:16, 26; 15:26; 16:7; R.V. marg., "or Advocate, or Helper; Gr. paracletos"). The same Greek word thus rendered is translated "Advocate" in 1 John 2:1 as applicable to Christ. It means properly "one who is summoned to the side of another" to help him in a court of justice by defending him, "one who is summoned to plead a cause." "Advocate" is the proper rendering of the word in every case where it occurs. It is worthy of notice that although Paul nowhere uses the word paracletos, he yet presents the idea it embodies when he speaks of the "intercession" both of Christ and the Spirit (Rom. 8:27, 34).[/brown] what made JOB being upright and perfect? ibig sabihin ang espiritu ng DIYOS laging nasa kanya of being perfect? anong taga-counsel nya oras oras? wala pang comforter nung time nila remember? When God asked Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden... Genesis 3: 2-3 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. Adam and Eve, both had the Holy Spirit of God that spoke with them, counseled them, gave judgement... and free will of choice [blue]But not the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost [/blue]
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jul 21, 2006 11:37:39 GMT 10
[teal]Panong naalala ni eve ang paalala? GOD was not there when eve talked to the serpent.... [/teal]
Genesis 3: 2-3 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jul 21, 2006 11:39:16 GMT 10
di pa present ang COMFORTER NG NEW TESTAMENT nyan.....
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Post by supremo on Jul 22, 2006 1:47:01 GMT 10
hmmmnn... SO HOLY SPIRIT our COMFORTER... comforter means... [brown]the designation of the Holy Ghost (John 14:16, 26; 15:26; 16:7; R.V. marg., "or Advocate, or Helper; Gr. paracletos"). The same Greek word thus rendered is translated "Advocate" in 1 John 2:1 as applicable to Christ. It means properly "one who is summoned to the side of another" to help him in a court of justice by defending him, "one who is summoned to plead a cause." "Advocate" is the proper rendering of the word in every case where it occurs. It is worthy of notice that although Paul nowhere uses the word paracletos, he yet presents the idea it embodies when he speaks of the "intercession" both of Christ and the Spirit (Rom. 8:27, 34).[/brown]
what made JOB being upright and perfect? ibig sabihin ang espiritu ng DIYOS laging nasa kanya of being perfect? anong taga-counsel nya oras oras? wala pang comforter nung time nila remember?
When God asked Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden...
Genesis 3: 2-3 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Adam and Eve, both had the Holy Spirit of God that spoke with them, counseled them, gave judgement... and free will of choice
[blue]But not the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost [/blue]
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Take note, this is a sensitive issue. Others might misinterpret what i'm about to say. We are created "in the image of God" which as i said is a spirit. Adam and eve don't have the Holy Spirit. Remember, Holy Spirit is God himself, isa sa tatlong persona ng Diyos. Sa pagkakaintindi ko, spirit being and at the same time human being din si adan at eba before the fall, but they are not Holy. Sigurado ako sa iyo, hindi iyun lalapitan ng diablo, ngi tuksuhin si adan at eba kung ang Banal na espiritu ay nasa kanila.
Now your next question might be: Then why today, God gives freely the Holy spirit to the believer yet believer still fall from their sin? Ofcourse they will still and have tendency to fall from sin coz we are now in what i call fallen state. Remember, christians, once accepted Christ as saviour, the holy spirit comes in and now have two nature (the old and new) which is warring with each other everyday. Ang pinagkaiba lang natin sa old testament noon, pag nagkasala ang tao, umaalis ang banal na espiritu sa kanya. Ngayong new testament, hindi na...."he who begun a good work in you, will be faithfull to complete it"..."No one can't snatch us out from our fathers hand"...
Imagine or try to visualize this, if adam and eve have the holy spirit in them plus not yet in a fallen state...can the devil tempt them and will succeed??? I think not, therefore i may safely conclude in my own opinion that they are spirit being yet not HOLY, coz they don't have the holy spirit in them.
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jul 26, 2006 11:00:21 GMT 10
Take note, this is a sensitive issue. Others might misinterpret what i'm about to say. We are created "in the image of God" which as i said is a spirit. Adam and eve don't have the Holy Spirit. Remember, Holy Spirit is God himself, isa sa tatlong persona ng Diyos. Sa pagkakaintindi ko, spirit being and at the same time human being din si adan at eba before the fall, but they are not Holy. Sigurado ako sa iyo, hindi iyun lalapitan ng diablo, ngi tuksuhin si adan at eba kung ang Banal na espiritu ay nasa kanila. [brown] talaga? sure ka? Bakit ang mga angels they are SPIRITS and they are being made HOLY by GOD, nagkasala pa rin? Di tinukso ng diyablo but they made themselves DEVILS? Mas angat ang katangian ng ANGELS sa tao and yet they are SPIRITS and HOLY pero bakit nagkasala???[/brown]
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Post by hottyfecehh on Jul 26, 2006 11:35:50 GMT 10
All of the creatures(MEN), the ANGELS, even JESUS the SON of GOD.... ay holy...
[brown]nasa genesis when GOD made HUMAN BEINGS, he made everything good... When we say good, walang bahid ng kasamaan, hindi present ang kabaliktaran ng holiness(maliban na lang nung nakakain na ng fruit ng tree of knowledge ang tao na isa sa naging kasalanan nila sa Diyos ay ang disobedience..) GOD even impart his SPIRIT sa tao para makilala ng tao na SYA ang tagalikha sa kanila... Nanalaytay sa kanila ang espiritu ng Diyos na kasama ng kanilang katawang lupa(flesh na talagang very weak sa kasalanan )....
Jesus the SON of GOD nung nagkatawang tao SYA sa lupa, though ang espiritung banal ay nasa KANYA, nagawa pa rin SYANG tuksuhin ng diyablo pero na-resist NYA, JESUS is very obedient sa FATHER... Pwede pa rin SYANG magkasala, pwede NYANG wag sundin ang utos ng AMA... Remember when HE is praying sa garden of gethsemane(waa, tama ba spelling?) [blue]"Father, if it is YOUR WILL, take this cup away from me...."[/blue] [brown]parang ayaw NYA because the consequence of saving mankind is death... pero binawi NYA ang sinabi....[/brown][blue]"Nevertheless not MY WILL, but YOURS be done"[/blue]
[brown]Bakit tingin mo kahit ang ANAK ng Diyos ay tinukso ng Diyablo knowing na HOLY ang SPIRIT na nasa katawang lupa ni JESUS?
bakit ang mga ANGELS SPIRIT and HOLY ang nasa kanila nagkasala pa rin sa GOD ALMIGHTY?
Bakit ang tao nag-impart ng espiritu ang Diyos sa katawan nila, nagkasala pa rin?
May free will po ang lahat... May choice sila to worship, obey GOD... Ganun lang po ka-simple.... Bottom line, kung gusto sumunod, susunod... Kung ayaw naman di pinipilit ng DIYOS, but nandun ang punishment to those who refuse to obey GOD....[/brown]
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Post by bangzhik101 on Jul 27, 2006 16:45:28 GMT 10
Hi Hotty,
Just a quick one.
The essense of man being "man" rests in the Soul. it is through this essense that Man was made under God's image.
The "soul" can be interpreted due to many terminologies it has been applied. It appplies to the essense of life under a literary intepretation. others consider it a "physical shell" which subsist with the physical body of man.
But one common denominator is present - Spirit never refers to the essense of man. Essense solely is under the "soul".
Point to ponder: When God created man under His own image - there is already life. Hence, the "spirit" given by God maybe intepreted on a literary style in thrying to give a physical description of how life was given by God. But it does not mean that God created man an "inanimate creature (devoid of life)" from the very start.
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Post by ruth on Jul 30, 2006 18:22:39 GMT 10
kuya banshik and hotty, basahin nyo po ito.. www.carm.org/doctrine/trinityspirit.htmThe Holy Spirit is one of the person hoods of God There is only one God...but God is tri-personal (God The Father, God The Son & God The Holy Spirit)... alin po bang spirit ang pinaguusapan natin? Spirit of Man? SPirit of the Devil o Spirit of God (which is the Holy Spirit)?
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Post by Always on Aug 5, 2006 12:08:11 GMT 10
The spirit of a man can either be good or evil; whereas when he dies, his own soul goes back to God (He Who has given him.)
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Post by hottyfecehh on Aug 6, 2006 0:20:13 GMT 10
The spirit of a man can either be good or evil; whereas when he dies, his own soul goes back to God (He Who has given him.) bunso tanong ko lang, goes back to GOD the soul... bakit when he dies, need ng soul ang bumalik sa DIYOS? anong spirit ba meron ang tao before the fall(i am referring to adam and eve)?
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Post by delta on Jan 25, 2007 13:37:02 GMT 10
Nagtatanong din ako.
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Post by Always on Mar 5, 2007 8:58:43 GMT 10
Mabuting spirito po ang meron sila bago ang Fall Pero si Hitler ay may masamang spirito at si Jeanne d'Arc naman ay may mabuting spirito pagkatapos ng Fall - Hmmmn baket kaya?
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Post by rafael on Mar 7, 2007 2:11:38 GMT 10
Again confusing christian teachings about the soul and the spirit. Others say man is composed of only body and soul, others claim body, soul and spirit.
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Post by Always on Mar 7, 2007 12:02:52 GMT 10
Others also say only the heart and soul, since heart is already part of the body Whereas the brain can be the mind BUT the mind cannot be the brain
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Post by rowtide on Mar 7, 2007 14:35:15 GMT 10
Perhaps Always can help us discuss and differentiate the soul from the spirit. Mukhang nakakalito nga.
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Post by brnd on Mar 7, 2007 15:31:21 GMT 10
It has also something to do with death-sleep as i formerly mentioned.
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Post by Always on Mar 10, 2007 8:33:02 GMT 10
And spirito is a part of the kaluluwa BUT the soul can not be part of a spirit. Ang mga hayop na tulad ng mga pusa o aso ay may mga kaluluwa pero walang mga spirito dahil mga tao lang ang meron nito
Ang spirito ay ginagamit ng tao sa pagtingalA pero ang kaluluwa any ginagamit sa paglalakad dito sa mundo sa dahilan ito'y "BUHAY" LIFE can be without spirit BUT LIFE cannot be without SOUL because SOUL itself is a LIFE
Parang Soul2lous hehehehe
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Post by linsi on Mar 10, 2007 14:00:05 GMT 10
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