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Post by linsi on Mar 4, 2006 4:59:09 GMT 10
from midnight Is 58:6-11 This, rather, is the fasting that I wish: releasing those bound unjustly, untying the thongs of the yoke; Setting free the oppressed, breaking every yoke; Sharing your bread with the hungry, sheltering the oppressed and the homeless; Clothing the naked when you see them, and not turning your back on your own. Then your light shall break forth like the dawn, and your wound shall quickly be healed; Your vindication shall go before you, and the glory of the LORD shall be your rear guard. Then you shall call, and the LORD will answer, you shall cry for help, and he will say: Here I am! If you remove from your midst oppression, false accusation and malicious speech; If you bestow your bread on the hungry and satisfy the afflicted; Then light shall rise for you in the darkness, and the gloom shall become for you like midday; Then the LORD will guide you always and give you plenty even on the parched land. He will renew your strength, and you shall be like a watered garden, like a spring whose water never fails. God is good... All the time! If we believe, we are the only "christian nation in Asia" then why do this nation comes second in corruption in Asia? Isn't this a contradiction of God's admonition about prosperity in all aspects?
Do you think that our churches failed? and our praises are just lip services?
Why don't we harvest blessings financially and spiritually instead we harvest disasters, poverty and chaos one after another?
One might think that these are curses and i think they are. Therefore can this nation be considered an enemy of God? A tresspasser who never repented honestly by being a rebel after years of generations?
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Post by midnight on Mar 4, 2006 19:54:40 GMT 10
If only we can re-learn the meaning of "sacrifice" and the teaching to "love thy neighbor"... Did not the Lord proclaim "liberty to the captives and the oppressed"? Did He not teach us that "what you do the least of these... you do unto Me"? Did He not say "swords will be beaten into ploughshares"? Ang masama nowadays, words are being turned to swords (Sad ) So... who failed? Christ or us? The situation is not at all hopeless... if we care. God is good... All the time![/i]
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Post by linsi on Mar 5, 2006 21:42:15 GMT 10
If only we can re-learn the meaning of "sacrifice" and the teaching to "love thy neighbor"... Did not the Lord proclaim "liberty to the captives and the oppressed"? Did He not teach us that "what you do the least of these... you do unto Me"? Did He not say "swords will be beaten into ploughshares"? Ang masama nowadays, words are being turned to swords (Sad ) So... who failed? Christ or us? The situation is not at all hopeless... if we care. God is good... All the time![/i][/quote]
agree but then what i actually discovered, being a foreigner turned permanent resident here was that people in more progressive country almost donot speak to each other, we all mind our own businesses and most of all there are very strong law enforcements..as a matter of fact no one is above the law.. the law of the land decides.
Everybody is protected and punished accordingly by the law, public strikes and demonstrations against the government is almost non- existent except for some instances, i have never seen a country like ours ousting presidents very often and yet church teachings overflow, christian programs on radios and tv stations fill the air, but christians against christians disagree, there is so much divisions among our people and yet it claims to be a christian nation, the only one in Asia.
The title puts christianity to shame, surely christianity never fails but we as a people failed to bring the banner properly. Our buddhist neighbours went ahead of us as we eat their dust behind.
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Post by midnight on Mar 6, 2006 14:46:51 GMT 10
What we can do is to start doing our part no matter how irrelevant they may seem to be. We may not even live to see the fruits of our labor but God in His mercy will take notice and bless it in His time. God is good... All the time![/i]
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Post by midnight on Mar 6, 2006 14:52:21 GMT 10
One time, Mr. Tony Meloto (executive director of GK) was asked "With the situation our country is in... who's to blame?" and he answered... "Ako! Ako ang dapat sisihin sa lahat ng nangyayaring ito sapagka't hindi ko ginawa ang kabutihang malaon ko nang dapat gawin. Ako lang at wala nang iba." Pero hindi naman sisihan lang ang maaari nating gawin. Hindi pa huli ang lahat kung gugustuhin natin. God is good...All the time![/i]
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Post by hottyfecehh on Mar 6, 2006 14:59:45 GMT 10
One time, Mr. Tony Meloto (executive director of GK) was asked "With the situation our country is in... who's to blame?" and he answered... "Ako! Ako ang dapat sisihin sa lahat ng nangyayaring ito sapagka't hindi ko ginawa ang kabutihang malaon ko nang dapat gawin. Ako lang at wala nang iba." Pero hindi naman sisihan lang ang maaari nating gawin. Hindi pa huli ang lahat kung gugustuhin natin. God is good...All the time![/i][/quote] ilan ang gumagawa ng katiwalian? kung iisa lang sa sampu? anyway, at least may isa pang gumagawa ng kabutihan...
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Post by linsi on Mar 6, 2006 16:14:14 GMT 10
One time, Mr. Tony Meloto (executive director of GK) was asked "With the situation our country is in... who's to blame?" and he answered... "Ako! Ako ang dapat sisihin sa lahat ng nangyayaring ito sapagka't hindi ko ginawa ang kabutihang malaon ko nang dapat gawin. Ako lang at wala nang iba." Pero hindi naman sisihan lang ang maaari nating gawin. Hindi pa huli ang lahat kung gugustuhin natin. God is good...All the time![/i][/quote]
sa 80 million pinoys, ilan kaya ang percentages ang nag iisip ng ganyan??? at kung meron mang kahit 50 % they needed funds..
haaaayyyy nakaka ngalay na, samantalang dito e bising bisi ang mga tao sa mga programs for the youth, may mga festivities at bisi sa syesta ang mga pensyonadong elderlies sa atin e bising bisi sa kudeta at emergency proclamation 1017, rally at strike..
habang bising bisi ang iba sa pagpapalipad ng kanilang mga space ships sa kalawakan, tayo ay bising bising mag hukay ng putik sa leyte na natabunan ng kalupaan..
ano ba naman itoh!
midnight, how i wish you could encourage me more...
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Post by linsi on Mar 6, 2006 16:21:37 GMT 10
the younger generations will suffer because those who were in power neglected our country, gaya nyan sa Leyte , should be, hindi na pinayagan na mag settle ang mga tao, sana pinuhunanan ng government ng infrastructures yan, or reinforcements,hanggang maging ideal for setlting or not at all, haaay nakow.. sasakit ang ulo koh
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Post by midnight on Mar 7, 2006 4:55:22 GMT 10
sa 80 million pinoys, ilan kaya ang percentages ang nag iisip ng ganyan??? at kung meron mang kahit 50 % they needed funds..
No idea as to the percentage, but we are on into something. What is encouraging about the Leyte tragedy is that even without formally campaigning for Kalinga Leyte as we did with Kalinga Luzon, pledges are coming in from various groups (even from other countries). Really... we need your prayers on this. God is good... All the time![/i]
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Post by linsi on Mar 7, 2006 13:18:47 GMT 10
sa 80 million pinoys, ilan kaya ang percentages ang nag iisip ng ganyan??? at kung meron mang kahit 50 % they needed funds..
No idea as to the percentage, but we are on into something. What is encouraging about the Leyte tragedy is that even without formally campaigning for Kalinga Leyte as we did with Kalinga Luzon, pledges are coming in from various groups (even from other countries). Really... we need your prayers on this. God is good... All the time![/i][/quote]
This is good, it does not make me a hard core pessimist, but while bahay kalinga humbly heals the philippines as an NGO,
we leave the government plundering.
One comment i just came across from other readers is something like this (not exact words)
" let us leave glorai and let it be, let us help ourselves"
poor people, we elect officials to plunder us, let them as we go with ourselves without the parenting of the government.
this leaves me more disappointed with the philippine governace. they send millions of OFW'S WITHOUT INVESTING ON THEM,
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Post by linsi on Mar 7, 2006 13:27:39 GMT 10
sa 80 million pinoys, ilan kaya ang percentages ang nag iisip ng ganyan??? at kung meron mang kahit 50 % they needed funds..
No idea as to the percentage, but we are on into something. What is encouraging about the Leyte tragedy is that even without formally campaigning for Kalinga Leyte as we did with Kalinga Luzon, pledges are coming in from various groups (even from other countries). Really... we need your prayers on this. God is good... All the time![/i][/quote]
This is good, it does not make me a hard core pessimist, but while bahay kalinga humbly heals the philippines as an NGO,and other charity works...
we leave the government plundering.
One comment i just came across from other readers is something like this (not exact words)
" let us leave glorai and let it be, let us help ourselves"
poor people, we elect officials to plunder us, let them as we go with ourselves without the parenting of the government.we elect them and give them a chance to the whole clutches of philippine blood enriching them.
this leaves me more disappointed with the philippine governace. they send millions of OFW'S WITHOUT INVESTING ON THEM, RATHER STRIPPING THEM OFF with millions of remittances as they are degraded abroad,
and even before they could leave POEA as the middle man milks them and agencies further kill them with chocking amounts of placements, plus the little demons of training centers furthering to empty their pockets by requiring tuition fees with masks of training them to be more experts on nannying and domestic works as they scrub toilets and wash the elderlies of other nations.
Bahay kalinga is a very noble deed, it is of God, but good people must do something about these leeches in the governace and the rotten system killing the nation side by side with bahay kalinga and the likes.
how a nation plunders its people in every phase, when bahay kalinga soars up, the more the government sits bwaha on its throne and says the pilipino can survive with us as we murder their economy.
;D
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Post by midnight on Mar 7, 2006 14:51:11 GMT 10
Gawad Kalinga is just a part of God's work out there. We hope that local government officials like the mayors will realize that they will be left with their political baggages if they fail to catch the train that is GK - that if they can't support GK in their areas, it would only mean their pork barrel is for something else. Actually, there are some congressmen who have given part of their CDFs for the cause of GK. God really can turn things that seem to be disadvantageous to His good purpose. God is good... All the time![/i]
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Post by empire on Mar 7, 2006 18:47:27 GMT 10
The truth is hindi naman talaga failed ang christianity sa P'nas ang mamamayang Pilipino ang failed how to worship the living God in facts people wants to follow the mans doctrines instead the word of God. They love to obey tradition para ipakita nila na sumasamba sila at naniniwala sa Diyos."The God did not glorify when you worship idols and everything that mans made. Look around us specially in the Phlis. most of our countrymen worship idols that made by the hands of man and God hate so much for that.Dahilan kaya hindi pinag-papala ang P'nas and besides we need a government leader na may takot sa Diyos. Ta ano ang ginagawa natin mga mananampalataya mayroon tayong papel na dapat na gampanan, paano nila malalaman na may plano nag Diyos sa buhay ng bawat isa kung hindi natin ihahayag at paano nila marririnig kung walang maghahayag. at iyan ang dahilan kung bakit tayo tinawag ng Diyos we must do our part being a good christians.
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Post by empire on Mar 7, 2006 18:59:11 GMT 10
hello! midnigth, I'm empire bagong miyembro ng P.7 have a nice day praise God at may mga ganitong website para sa mga christians.So we can share the words of God for those people who live out there na wala pang tamang relasyon sa Panginoon.
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Post by midnight on Mar 7, 2006 20:09:04 GMT 10
Now is the time acceptable to the Lord... Now is also the time to do something for our fellowmen. How can we preach to the masses who are suffering the indignity of poverty? Let our actions match our preaching. God is good... All the time![/i]
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Post by linsi on Mar 8, 2006 18:17:31 GMT 10
The truth is hindi naman talaga failed ang christianity sa P'nas ang mamamayang Pilipino ang failed how to worship the living God in facts people wants to follow the mans doctrines instead the word of God. They love to obey tradition para ipakita nila na sumasamba sila at naniniwala sa Diyos."The God did not glorify when you worship idols and everything that mans made. Look around us specially in the Phlis. most of our countrymen worship idols that made by the hands of man and God hate so much for that.Dahilan kaya hindi pinag-papala ang P'nas and besides we need a government leader na may takot sa Diyos. Ta ano ang ginagawa natin mga mananampalataya mayroon tayong papel na dapat na gampanan, paano nila malalaman na may plano nag Diyos sa buhay ng bawat isa kung hindi natin ihahayag at paano nila marririnig kung walang maghahayag. at iyan ang dahilan kung bakit tayo tinawag ng Diyos we must do our part being a good christians.
sir
marami pong hindi nag wo worship sa idols pero grabe ang worship nila sa pride and ego nila
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Post by empire on Mar 8, 2006 19:12:59 GMT 10
pride and ego is also kind of idols dahil mas higit nilang binibigyan ng pansin ito kaysa sa Diyos. Anumang ang pinahahalagan ng isang tao higit kaysa Diyos it is called idolatry.
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Post by empire on Mar 8, 2006 19:13:36 GMT 10
pride and ego is also kind of idols dahil mas higit nilang binibigyan ng pansin ito kaysa sa Diyos. Anumang bagay ang pinahahalagan ng isang tao higit kaysa Diyos it is called idolatry.
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Post by migy on Mar 15, 2006 19:33:56 GMT 10
agree ako diyan...
Teacher ka nga talaga Sir. Empire...
Pero hirap ng obligasyon ano...
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Post by linsi on Mar 17, 2006 0:33:36 GMT 10
pride and ego is also kind of idols dahil mas higit nilang binibigyan ng pansin ito kaysa sa Diyos. Anumang ang pinahahalagan ng isang tao higit kaysa Diyos it is called idolatry.
sir empire
for the sake of arguments lang po ito ha, pride and ego are also kinds of idols, sabi po ninyo yung worhipping idols and everything which is man made..it seems that the primary implications you pointed at innitially was about graven images as idols..
if we compare people making graven images which were handed to them from generations, masasabi po nating naging kultura na rin ito ng saling lahi at nakagawian na...
they just make graven images because they believe it was holy because people before them taught the latter generations that it was one form of virtue and offerings..
compare natin sa mga taong hindi nga gumagawa ng graven images alam na alam ang bibliya pero terible ang pride, and weakedness and self righteousness against their neighbors, against God and against himself (fornicators) ay maraming ganyan..
we can say na parehong timbang?
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Post by Illegally Blonde on Mar 17, 2006 16:23:09 GMT 10
The truth is hindi naman talaga failed ang christianity sa P'nas ang mamamayang Pilipino ang failed how to worship the living God in facts people wants to follow the mans doctrines instead the word of God. They love to obey tradition para ipakita nila na sumasamba sila at naniniwala sa Diyos."The God did not glorify when you worship idols and everything that mans made. Look around us specially in the Phlis. most of our countrymen worship idols that made by the hands of man and God hate so much for that.Dahilan kaya hindi pinag-papala ang P'nas and besides we need a government leader na may takot sa Diyos. Ta ano ang ginagawa natin mga mananampalataya mayroon tayong papel na dapat na gampanan, paano nila malalaman na may plano nag Diyos sa buhay ng bawat isa kung hindi natin ihahayag at paano nila marririnig kung walang maghahayag. at iyan ang dahilan kung bakit tayo tinawag ng Diyos we must do our part being a good christians. I don't normally express my views when it comes to subjects such as faith and religion. But this time I just would like to share my opinion. I think it's not fair to judge a person's faith based on how he or she practices her religion. It is my belief that all of us are citizens of this world no one can claim that God only speaks to the Christians. In fact the God that I know in my heart is a God who is just and merciful, who doesn't make any distinction whether one is a Jew, Moslem, atheist or a Christian. The God that I know does not play favorites. I could probably expressed this through this song, which happens to be my favorite: ONE GOD Billions of stars placed in the skies by one God Millions of men lift up their eyes to one God So many children calling to him by many a different name One Father loving each the same Many the ways all of us pray to one God Many the paths winding their way to one God Walk with me brother there were no strangers After His word was done For your God and my God Amen
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Post by bangzhik101 on Mar 28, 2006 19:04:37 GMT 10
Hi Linsi,
I believe that there is a divine plan. Sometimes, things do not happen the way man wants it to be (i.e. Philippine situation), but God has His own plans for us and the country.
Remember, the early Christian churches fell in Jerusalem only to flourish years later at the seat of the Holy Roman Empire. In a way the years of persecution gave rise of Christianity to the doors of Europe.
Just think, we have 6 million OFW's all around the world. If 95% of them are Christian, it means that they are actually spreading the word of God...
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Post by empire on Mar 29, 2006 0:57:17 GMT 10
Hi Sis Linsi; Katulad ng sabi mo yong mga taong di gumagawa ng graven images alam na alam ang bibliya kung mantuligsa ng kapwa ay ganoon na lang.Ang tanong ko po ay ganito sila ba ay tunay na kristiyano, kasi po marami rin akong alam na magagaling sa bibliya pero may ugali rin sila na katulad ng sinasabi mo pinagaralan nga nila ang bible for ten long years or more eh! pero sila yong taong they ebeyed doctrine not from the bible But if we read the bibleThose people who did like what you talking about are not the real christian. coz the real christian are not talking against GOD and against theirselves "Dahil ang sabi po sa bibliya buhay at kamatayan ay nakasasalalay sa ating mga dila, so kung sila ay tunay na kristiyano alam nila ito at 100% hindi sila magssalita laban sa Diyos at sa kanilang sarili lalo na sa kanilang kapwa.
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Post by migy on Apr 3, 2006 19:38:01 GMT 10
We just can't force them to remove such belief, all we can do is to share with them the Love of Christ and the teachings of God pertaining to idolatry, besides God did not even force us to believe or not.
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Post by linsi on Apr 4, 2006 2:55:52 GMT 10
Hi Linsi, I believe that there is a divine plan. Sometimes, things do not happen the way man wants it to be (i.e. Philippine situation), but God has His own plans for us and the country. Remember, the early Christian churches fell in Jerusalem only to flourish years later at the seat of the Holy Roman Empire. In a way the years of persecution gave rise of Christianity to the doors of Europe. Just think, we have 6 million OFW's all around the world. If 95% of them are Christian, it means that they are actually spreading the word of God...
but kuya banshik
we are now tailing southeast asian nations where we use to lead, , and now isn't it a disgust to learn that we are in the fourth world category with cambodia and bangladesh ?
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Post by bangzhik101 on Apr 4, 2006 12:04:47 GMT 10
Hi Linsi,
Let us learn from the Bible. During the time of David, Israel lorded over the region and was very prominent. Then there was a time Israel was vanquished and they became exiles in Babylon.
In the NT, Palestine became a colony of Rome. The Jews had to live up to serve Rome. The feeling of disgust could be felt the same way, as the Jews who were suppoed to be the chosen people of God has to serve a pagan empire.
I am not saying we should be thankful for the rut the Philippines is in...I am just saying is that there should be a part in us to trust and hope in the Divine Plan that God has in store for us.
As I said, the poor conditions in the country compels a lot of Filipinos to go abroad. If these Filipinos who know Christ are spread out around the world, there is also a great possibility that they would share the message of Christ abroad.
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Post by linsi on Apr 11, 2006 16:36:32 GMT 10
Hi Linsi, Let us learn from the Bible. During the time of David, Israel lorded over the region and was very prominent. Then there was a time Israel was vanquished and they became exiles in Babylon. In the NT, Palestine became a colony of Rome. The Jews had to live up to serve Rome. The feeling of disgust could be felt the same way, as the Jews who were suppoed to be the chosen people of God has to serve a pagan empire. I am not saying we should be thankful for the rut the Philippines is in...I am just saying is that there should be a part in us to trust and hope in the Divine Plan that God has in store for us. As I said, the poor conditions in the country compels a lot of Filipinos to go abroad. If these Filipinos who know Christ are spread out around the world, there is also a great possibility that they would share the message of Christ abroad.
Implications show that pinoys are still waiting and as we wait, we sink slowly.. i would rather choose being stagnant at the moment than waiting while sinking and moving downwards.
the only christian nation in Asia as we brand ourselves is suffering amids progress and hi technology, aid grants and comforts given by rich nations, and it seems these things does not aleviate even a little.
When Esther fasted and prayed with the jews, God heard them, how many christians in Pinas do this? and for how long? how long
When news reach us about the hungry being more hungry everyday we hear the miseries and nothing more.
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Post by linsi on Apr 11, 2006 16:40:09 GMT 10
Christ has been proclaimed, the Philippines " christian nation, the only" as it is branded is suffering a lot more with each passing days, the jews suffered, and now they have the richest people living on earth as they control the world bank and imf, i donot crave for anything more for my country but spare the hungry and the sick just the hungry and the sick..
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Post by theservant on Apr 12, 2006 16:54:51 GMT 10
we do not notice that maybe in some area of our lives, this is the actual tribulation period, power people are greedy nowadays. just only sharing my points. again Did Christianity fails or is it happening
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Post by midnight on Apr 16, 2006 14:55:41 GMT 10
As with a half-filled glass of water, it depends on one's appreciation of what's taking place. As long as there are people who hope in God and acts upon it, Christianity will not fail. God is there all along. Try this article: news.inq7.net/nation/index.php?index=1&story_id=72646 [blue] God is good... All the time[/blue]
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